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Re: New Surface Pro

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Surface Pros run Windows 10, so they have the same UI as other computers. I don't see the problem?

If the UI/UX is bad for any one or all devices it runs it, that is a problem.

It's not, there are two modes, one for tablets and one for desktops/laptops, and you can quickly switch between them.

Re: New Surface Pro

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"If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are." This can be misleading. I bought my Macbook Air in Portugal, had 2y warranty there. Then moved to the UK and the brick stopped working. Went to an Apple Store and since it was after the 1y warranty offered when you buy it in the UK, they rejected replacing it for me. Eventually went to Portugal to visit m…

Counter experience (but it was 2009). I bought a used white macbook from craigslist in 2008. I'm from the US, and live in the US. Was traveling in UK, and laptop keyboard cracked - big hole in the side of the keyboard. Took it to Apple store in London - forget which one - replaced at no cost in about 3 hours. EDIT: per goatforce5's comment, I had a bit of 'umm' and 'ahh' when I was in London. I thought it would be "o…

> Was traveling in UK, and laptop keyboard cracked - big hole in the side of the keyboard. Took it to Apple store in London - forget which one - replaced at no cost in about 3 hours.

Same thing happened to me (white Macbook, cracks on the keyboard). AFAIK it is a known defect from this series and Apple accredited repair shops were instructed to replace the keyboard for free no matter if the warranty was still valid or not.

It's still a good thing though, I know no other brand that would do that for free 4 years after the warranty expired (in my case).

Re: New Surface Pro

#583

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

> No USB-C What would you even plug into it? It's not like USB-C accessories are readily stocked everywhere, I'm still carrying around dongles all day for my TouchBar MBP. If the laptop shipped with USB-C people would be whinging they need dongles, literally can't win.

Just ship with one USB-C and one USB-A. It's not that hard to figure out.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Non-mac layout is different again. Here's a pic of a Dell laptop I have knocking around: http://imgur.com/a/w5GVC [ could do with a clean! ]

> [ could do with a clean! ] It's a disgusting view, I'll give you that

Yep, didn't come out pretty with the camera flash :)

Re: New Surface Pro

#585

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If the UI/UX is bad for any one or all devices it runs it, that is a problem.

It's not, there are two modes, one for tablets and one for desktops/laptops, and you can quickly switch between them.

And that's the problem. The two modes doesn't "change" (or the apps are just the properly optimized for the different modes) the apps enough so in reality, an app is either good in one mode or the other, not in both.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Returns aren't accepted for Surface devices in particular?

No, returning a purchase is not a concept that exists in India, whether for electronics or clothes or other things.

That's false. I've returned a number of items to Amazon India, Myntra and other online/offline stores

Re: New Surface Pro

#587

The keyboard looks bad. I don't want the oversized left and right arrows. I want pageup and pagedown there instead. The XPS 13 2-in-1 is better for me if only for this reason. The XPS also comes with a pen, USB-C, and a decent hardware configuration like 16Gb of ram because we are in 2017!!! I just wish I could get QHD+ screen. No option on dell.com, while I see that on https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5MV7YA so it must…

I own a Surface Pro 3 with the SP4 type cover (i.e. the version before the one that just came out and which is basically the same). I thought I'd miss all the keys from my laptop and desktop keyboards. Turns out, there are lots of hidden shortcuts. I got used to doing Fn+Arrows for Home/End/PageUp/PageDown and now I wish I could use that on other keyboards too. To me it's easier than having to reach for those keys wh…

The keyboard is holding me up. I have shortcuts mapped to the keys above the left and right arrow. I use them extensively to navigate between desktop and tabs. A few years ago I read about using such shortcuts and now they are deeply ingrained into my workflow.

I don't think I could do without them, and they are one of the only reason I'm considering the XPS: a proper keyboard.

FYI, by default these 2 keys go to the next tab, when using the shift key right above: they go to next desktop, using the control or menu key right next to them they reorder the tabs, etc.)

For the tool I use everyday, price is not the problem. However, a bad keyboard is.

Re: New Surface Pro

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50% more battery life than the 4, fanless options for the m3 and i5 versions, on screen support for the surface dial, and a new hinge that lays a little flatter seem like the big changes. It's largely an incremental improvement.

And LTE. It would be pretty damn surprising if you got any more than an incremental improvement this late in the game.

Oh yeah LTE is neat but I don't really have a use for it so I always forget to look.

Re: New Surface Pro

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One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

"If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are." This can be misleading. I bought my Macbook Air in Portugal, had 2y warranty there. Then moved to the UK and the brick stopped working. Went to an Apple Store and since it was after the 1y warranty offered when you buy it in the UK, they rejected replacing it for me. Eventually went to Portugal to visit m…

So, how does the reverse work? If I buy a laptop in UK with 1 year, can I go to Portugal and get service between year 1 and year 2 because they offer 2 year warranty? There may be a chance I suppose...?

Re: New Surface Pro

#590
At $899 USD, there are a lot of options besides the Surface Pro. Our organization will buy it though because they take a corporate approach to purchasing and they always buy warranties. I never understand that... but whatever. Just buy 10 more Surface Pro and swap 'em out if want "warranty". Still cheaper that way.
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