Privacy is of course important. We should take it seriously. And i think its our duty to encourage other people to do so, and i know there are many people does not care.
NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years
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What do I do, as someone who cares? No, seriously. Should I throw a bit more money at the EFF? Start my own political party, or enter an existing one and try to steer it in my direction? Try to get employed by one of these organizations and then promote a better understanding of their mission internally? Move to another country where people care more (which?) Identifying the problem is a good first step, but what can…
If you are a US citizen contact your representative and let them know you want people held accountable. Be active in social media calling for the same (if you're on social media). I know many wont do that based simply on political affiliation which is sad but expected in todays environment.
Tell them to put Jim Clapper on the stand and get some answers.
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One unanticipated consequence of the Snowden revelations is that other agencies now know what to ask for.
Maybe so. But SOD started in the 70s. Its focus was drug cartels. I'm guessing that NSA staff reached out to the FBI.
Yeah, but SOD isn't data sharing exactly (or wasn't?). To quote the Reuters's article:
You'd be told only, ‘Be at a certain truck stop at a certain time and look for a certain vehicle
This isn't a defense of the program or of parallel construction of course. But it is indicative that raw data wasn't shared, and other agencies didn't know the source or get any idea of how it was obtained.
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#84This is an old story.
And, even if it wasn't, I don't want to sound cynic or excessively sarcastic, but it would be the biggest case for "no shit, sherlock".
edit: grammar
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There's this really interesting assertion in Weight of Chains 2 by Boris Malagurski: Serbia (Yugoslavia) before the Balkan Wars had an excellent education system that produced many scholars in the diaspora still today. The West/NATO/EU bombed that to the ground, along with the economy (factories, banks, telecom). Those who are still in Serbia now and are in charge have not been able to recreate an education system th…
I call Bullshit on you. The one of the product of that excellent education system was Milosevic as well. Serbia with Milosevic started the last Balkan Wars in its desire to renew Dusan's Empire, or in common tongue, to make a greater Serbia. First in Slovenia, later on in Croatia then in Bosnia and Herzegovina. When it started on the south, in between Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, Turkey, it became too…
Milosevic and Tudjman were nationalistic idiots who LITEALLY conspired together to start the war.
It was agreed upon. Banque Franco Yugoslave was jointly owned by them- they started the war so that they could raid state assets from it under the guise of war and strife.
Please don't be so one-sided. The Yugoslav education system in the 70s was excellent and produced scholars from all nationalities and religions who are still working today.
Milosevic was a partisan idiot elected after a decade of economic instability (once again orchestrated by the West)
Re: NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years
#86Thats not the problem, the problem is that no one seems to care anymore. Thats very, very disturbing.
Re: NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years
#87I think the most dangerous thing is that what Snowden predicted actually happened by now. After all the revelations, nobody is interested anymore. There's this general fatigue and powerlessness that leads to a feeling of "well, yeah, everbody knows by now... what's the news here?" - even for me as a security expert and privacy proponent. The real danger is nobody cares anymore, as this enables all further constitutio…
I think a big part of the reason is that the common man confuses privacy and security. You see this with statements like, "Well, I don't have anything to hide... so I don't care." The media and politicians didn't (don't) help with this confusion, either.
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Your version is as true as it was true that Iraq had WMD. Or that those against Assad are all "moderate rebels." There are definite similarities. In reality, Bosniak Muslims were supported by al-Qaeda, bin Laden and his closest men had the passports made by the Bosniak Muslim government, which was also supported by the U.S. It was all before 9/11, or "Iraq had WMD" affair, so it was very easy to sell.
Another schizophrenic view of the world.
Which fact from these that I've specified you not believe?
WMD in Iraq story was actually fabricated, the UK actually stole an article of a student Ibrahim al-Marashi to present it as the result of the work of their intelligence services. bin Laden actually had a Bosniak Muslim passport. There were "Bosnian mujahideen" soldiers from the foreign lands fighting there, just like now in Syria. They were actually supported by the U.S, but also by the "allies" of the U.S. from the Muslim world. The "moderate rebels" in Syria as the U.S. calls them, are in fact much bigger Islamists than Assad ever can be, etc.
There are clear decades of similarity in the politics.
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#89The word "Obama" is mentioned only once within the 81 comments so far posted...
Re: NSA secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years
#90I think the most dangerous thing is that what Snowden predicted actually happened by now. After all the revelations, nobody is interested anymore. There's this general fatigue and powerlessness that leads to a feeling of "well, yeah, everbody knows by now... what's the news here?" - even for me as a security expert and privacy proponent. The real danger is nobody cares anymore, as this enables all further constitutio…
No one cares because it doesn't change anything