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Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by mel919 »

komali2 wrote: post #473

SP3 user for ~3 years. Usecases: Web Dev in node/javascript/HTML/CSS, now using WSL. Notetaking in onenote + surface pen for general journaling, notes at meetups, notes from MOOCs, notes from self-language-study. Vague low-power gaming sometimes. Adobe Lightroom photo editing. Issues: Onenote is absolute fucking garbage at syncing. It is absolutely unusable when offline. It will throw unskippable error dialogs about…

I hear you. OneNote uses OneDrive which is a huge mess itself. Sync to Dropbox would help so much... there's even ticket for that on their uservoice. OneNote also sucks massively at searching in notes...

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by intoverflow2 »

zghst wrote: post #232
tomtheelder wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about this are you describing as copying Apple's strategy?

MS built out an entire hardware line that mimics Apple's hardware line and then put up counter points to Mac alongside each competing Apple product. It is obvious and Microsoft's collective ego shows. It is a very late response to Apple's old campaign, they have moved on completely.

If only, if only Apple made something like the Surface Studio

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

zghst wrote: post #282
binarycrusader wrote: post #263

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Mimics? At last check, none of Apple's laptops had full touch screens or supported a stylus. If you're talking about design or style, you might be able to argue that.

You are talking about features. Not the products themselves. Tablet. Laptop. Convertible (in-between). There usage and perception is the same. There is no defining feature that make them different. They go after the same market, that is the key. None of these products (Surface) really matter because Microsoft is just buying time and expertise with the Surface line. HoloLens will change everything, as soon as it drops…

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Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by blowski »

dahauns wrote: post #552
blowski wrote: post #431

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The legislation doesn't have a fixed period, it provides a vague 'reasonable use for a reasonable period of time' type clause. This was a £1700 laptop, so I had a right to expect it to last longer than 3 years, which was supported by claims on Apple's website. Therefore, Apple either has to say "our laptops are only good for three years", or say that particular laptop was defective and fix it.

> The [EU] legislation doesn't have a fixed period. Sure does: 2 years. http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guar...

You are right! It's the UK implementation of the law that's more fuzzy.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by thirdsun »

TekMol wrote: post #10

I use my tablet quite a lot to browse the web. It's an old iPad 2. Everytime a new tablet comes out, I wonder if I should update but cannot find a reason. Is there anything new in this tablet that would benefit me? All I really care for in a tablet is that it is: 1) Fanless (The iPad is fanless) 2) Lightweight (The iPad weights 600g)

To be fair an iPad 2 is quite slow and bulky compared to the current model. Maybe you don't know what you're missing, but I'd say there's no going back if you use a current iPad Pro, or just the recently updated non-Pro version.

Judging by your requirements you're looking for a tablet and compared to the surface an iPad still offers a way better tablet experience.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by fnord123 »

ianleighton wrote: post #542
tcmb wrote: post #439

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I noticed that in the US almost all signage uses text instead of symbols. For example, writing "No smoking" on a sign, where in Europe you would have a crossed-out cigarette. I don't really understand why this is done, since well-made symbols are also understandable for illiterate people or those not speaking the language.

Explain to me the difference between these three signs: 1. a bicycle on a blue circle, 2. a bicycle on a white circle outlined in red, and 3. a bicycle on a blue square. On the other hand having to read all that in text while you're riding by isn't very reasonable either. Complex signage is only as good as your knowledge of it, which maybe is why passing a driving test in Europe is so much harder; it requires knowled…

>1. a bicycle on a blue circle

Only bicycles

>2. a bicycle on a white circle outlined in red

No bicycles.

>3. a bicycle on a blue [rectangle]

Recommended route for bicycles.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by Kipters »

ianleighton wrote: post #542
tcmb wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed that in the US almost all signage uses text instead of symbols. For example, writing "No smoking" on a sign, where in Europe you would have a crossed-out cigarette. I don't really understand why this is done, since well-made symbols are also understandable for illiterate people or those not speaking the language.

Explain to me the difference between these three signs: 1. a bicycle on a blue circle, 2. a bicycle on a white circle outlined in red, and 3. a bicycle on a blue square. On the other hand having to read all that in text while you're riding by isn't very reasonable either. Complex signage is only as good as your knowledge of it, which maybe is why passing a driving test in Europe is so much harder; it requires knowled…

blue circle: something you MUST do (in this case, indicates a path that can only be taken by bycicles)

white circle with red outline: something that is forbidden (the road is forbidden for bycicles)

the last one indicates a bycicle-only path crossing the road, 150 meters before it you should see a white triangle outlined in red ("danger") with a bycicle inside it

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by jmkni »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #122
Longhanks wrote: post #4

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

> No USB-C What would you even plug into it? It's not like USB-C accessories are readily stocked everywhere, I'm still carrying around dongles all day for my TouchBar MBP. If the laptop shipped with USB-C people would be whinging they need dongles, literally can't win.

There's a couple of docks which are quite reasonably priced, and support a couple of 1440p/4K monitors, plus a keyboard/mouse etc.

That's what I'd plug it into.

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