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How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by bubblethink »

ashark wrote: post #85
bubblethink wrote: post #33

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A huge chunk of that price is because these guys are importing them from Japan, and selling in brick and mortar stores in the US. You are paying a significant sum for the convenience of ordering them. If you know what you want, you can order them from rakuten with a bit of google translate directly. Also, the law of diminishing returns and all that. The sweet spot is generally $75-$150, even for fancy raw denim jeans…

How does one nail down sizing on stuff like this? I imagine returns to a Japanese-only store from a US address, for someone who doesn't speak Japanese, and crossing a cultural barrier for how sales/service should work, are nightmarish, so you'd want to get it right the first time.

Yeah, that's why I said 'if you know what you want'. It's not that bad though. The listings have accurate measurements. You do need to have a general sense of what would work for you though. The only variable that you are choosing really is waist size. Jeans are not hemmed anyway.

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Post by remir »

jakub_g wrote: post #37

I must be a weird one, but while I used to like jeans, I stopped wearing them a few years ago. I only wear cotton pants those days. Every time I wear jeans, I'd feel itching very soon, particularly when it's hot, or when I wear the same pants two days in a row. I'm not sure if either I didn't notice this before, or did I change, or the production process of the jeanswear has changed.

You should try denim with elastane. I bought a cheap pair from Old Navy and they're really comfortable, almost like wearing sweat pants.

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by ashark »

DKnoll wrote: post #109
ashark wrote: post #104

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I did that once but they came out with freezer-smell (predictably, I guess).

I'm not familiar with a freezer smell. I think you may need to pick up some baking soda. :)

Plasticky? Mostly? Like a fridge that's been unplugged (empty) for a while, but less strong.

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by remir »

silviogutierrez wrote: post #58

On jeans as an aesthetic choice, I have no strong opinion. Like everything else, they can look good or bad depending on fit/color/etc. But jeans for comfort? Maybe I'm the only one, but I find pants infinitely more comfortable. Even wool dress pants. And in the summer, jeans barely breath at all.

Jeans with a percentage of elastane are really comfortable.

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by woobar »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #107
woobar wrote: post #95

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I wonder how this picture (captioned "Daily wear riding motorcycles") works with the common american attitude of washing their clothes after wearing them just once? I know some people will wear jeans two/three times before washing them, but changing clothes daily is still expected in the office environment. So you will need at least 5 different pairs to cycle through each week. At the end of the year each pair is wor…

Here's the original post if you'd like to read it https://www.reddit.com/r/rawdenim/comments/6ci52s/ub221_dail... A comment written by the OP of that post: > 2-3 washes I think? And. 2 soaks in a hot bath tub. But also multiple, uncountable amounts of getting caught in the pouring rain riding a motorcycle. I remember riding during hurricane Hermine wearing them With raw denim (and especially on the subreddit and othe…

But that $300 over several years (I am pretty sure I still wear a couple of 5 y.o. jeans ;)

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by int_19h »

Analemma_ wrote: post #2

A far as male pants/trousers go, your choices are basically jeans, corduroys, or khakis (chinos). Corduroys are uncomfortably warm, IME, and of the remaining two jeans are a clear winner for convenience: they don't need to be ironed (chinos look terrible as soon as they get even slightly wrinkled, jeans do not), and they better conceal small spills and stains. Not much more to it than that, for me.

Once you stop caring about appearances and go mainly for comfort, the "tactical" clothing (of a more lightweight variety, usually marketed as "duty" for security guards etc) becomes a surprisingly good choice. You get durable cotton/polyester or cotton/nylon blends, plenty of pockets that are actually designed to hold useful things in a comfortable way (like a phone pocket that can fit a Nexus 6P), generous cuts that do not constrict your movement or feel tight when you sit down, often with an elastic waistband that's not noticeable on the outside.

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by Inconel »

Nav_Panel wrote: post #72
ashark wrote: post #55

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> There's also a kind of signaling by people who are rich enough not to care about these things and dress accordingly, which is a way of reminding other people that you have so much money you don't care about what impression you make. This only works when people already know you're wealthy, though. Fussell notes this in his Class . The group he categorizes as "top out-of-sight" (mostly old money) is genuinely beyond…

Fussell's book was written prior to "hipsters" as we know them, but many tenets of "hipster fashion" are predicated on some of the same logic as "upper-class folks intentionally dressing down" -- educated, urban, corporate-employed, well-to-do young people dressing "down" in streetwear or workwear like Carhartt (this one really confused my parents). Obviously they will not be construed as a member of the rural workin…

If you have time would you mind expanding on your point about the racial dimensions of workwear? Aren't most urban "hipsters" white, as are most rural working class people?

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by huac »

mmagin wrote: post #86
DaggerDagger wrote: post #73

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INb4 people talk about $300 jeans. These are jeans you only have one pair of, that you wear EVERY DAY. They are worth it but it's like buying a nice sports car or nice purse. It's the same thing. Invest in what you use all the time.

Do you wash them every night or what? Don't tell me about ridiculous things like not washing them or freezing them or something.

Not washing them is actually pretty reasonable. I wash my raw denim jeans roughly every 4 or 5 months; this does coincide with how often they actually get dirty.

Re: How jeans conquered the world (2012)

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Post by Nav_Panel »

Inconel wrote: post #117
Nav_Panel wrote: post #72

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Fussell's book was written prior to "hipsters" as we know them, but many tenets of "hipster fashion" are predicated on some of the same logic as "upper-class folks intentionally dressing down" -- educated, urban, corporate-employed, well-to-do young people dressing "down" in streetwear or workwear like Carhartt (this one really confused my parents). Obviously they will not be construed as a member of the rural workin…

If you have time would you mind expanding on your point about the racial dimensions of workwear? Aren't most urban "hipsters" white, as are most rural working class people?

Streetwear is where the racial dimension comes into play, not as much with workwear. I could elaborate on some of the racial dimensions of the "hipster", though, if you'd like.

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Post by icc97 »

specializeded wrote: post #54
icc97 wrote: post #44

When 90% of the people around you are all wearing some shade of blue jeans, its a bit the same as everybody driving around in cars in some shade of grey (which they do at least in Belgium). That is, it's just really boring. Colour is one of the few things we've got to express ourselves, so it's a shame we don't use it more.

That does sound boring... I see black jeans, all shades of blue jeans, white jeans and gray jeans on a v regular basis. High waisted, cut off, slim, baggy, "jorts" & their modern, slimmer variants etc A few years ago there were even lots of very loud turquoise, red and yellow ones around for a time, and honestly I think we're all a little glad that's ended :)

black, gray, white + shades of blue

That's basically what I was moaning about. It's just BW monochrome + blue monochrome.

Bring on the turquoise and fuchsia I say!

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