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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by gutnor »

vijayr wrote: post #120
stickfigure wrote: post #114

The right solution to this problem is, when traveling, always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" It sucks, and it many mean a lot of hassle ranging from confiscated equipment to being held at the border to being refused entry, but this is just one of the new risks of travel. Border security only gets away with this because people say yes. Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that s…

Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that sharing passwords is a terminable policy violation So which is a better option? Losing a job (or) refused entry/detention/harassment after 24+ hours on the plane/getting treated like a criminal....? (not that criminals need to be treated badly) The right solution to this problem is saner laws and educating the public about privacy and related topic…

And the possibility of not being able to go to the US ever again, meaning something that will get in the way when searching other employment.

It's one thing to decide not to go to the US, it is quite another to be force to it in order to defend my employer shareholders interest on a trip mandated by them. If you send me to the US, you implicitly agree the company is fine with US borders to do whatever they want with the company data.

It is 2016, I can rebuild a whole laptop from scratch with my whole data anywhere in the world. There are affordable ways to work around the problem: provisioning a VDI and even buying a laptop on site is a fraction of the cost of flight and accommodation.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by ptaipale »

fernandotakai wrote: post #138
stickfigure wrote: post #114

The right solution to this problem is, when traveling, always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" It sucks, and it many mean a lot of hassle ranging from confiscated equipment to being held at the border to being refused entry, but this is just one of the new risks of travel. Border security only gets away with this because people say yes. Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that s…

> always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" in my case, that would mean deportation due to not being american. i either get deported and lose all the traveling plans or i get searched.

I think in this case the correct technical term is "denied entry". You haven't passed immigration to the country.

Deportation is the expulsion of someone who's actually in the country, past the border, and resident or visiting.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by r00fus »

cdolan92 wrote: post #57
jzl wrote: post #47

This is a nice feature, but ultimately if you are concerned with border agents requiring a phone search then you should just backup and install a fresh OS before traveling, then restore when you get back. Log into the minimal number of apps after you've entered the destination country, and optionally delete/logout of said apps prior to return travel if the return border crossing is also a concern. Admittedly if you u…

That may be a solution, but I'm never going to have the time to do that personally.

Then it's a burner phone for you. Can't afford that? According to the security state, then you pay by risking your information.

I agree with both you and the parent poster. It's sad that we're paying a privacy tax on something that should be constitutionally protected.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by ryandrake »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #39
netgusto wrote: post #18

Wouldn't an alternative "destroy everything" password be a good idea also ? Would work like this : When forced to enter / give the password to your vault, you enter/give this one, and everything the vault contains is wiped out before the vault is unlocked.

Once again we drum up technical "solutions" to what ultimately is a policy issue. A better idea is to change our laws so that our constitutional rights are respected. If that's not possible then the next solution is to change our elected officials.

> A better idea is to change our laws...

Oooookay, sure. We'll get right on that one. In the mean time, I'll take a technical solution.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

davidgaw wrote: post #177

It's a clever idea, but how long before border authorities simply order travelers to log on to 1Password and turn off travel mode, or be denied entry? I'm guessing not very.

:-/

What we really need is plausible deniability - if they don't know you use 1password, they don't know to ask for it.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by komali2 »

DanBC wrote: post #178
noja wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That border agent is a real person, who is "only doing their job". So are you. It works both ways. If enough people say no, then after a hellish but hopefully short adjustment period, the policy will change.

> the policy will change. The policy might change to include cells at the borders where people are detained until they hand over login details or voluntarily decide not to enter.

Should the slope become that slippery we'll have a much better reason to stand outside a legislator's office with pointy sticks than "I was mildly inconvenienced by the TSA."

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

netgusto wrote: post #18

Wouldn't an alternative "destroy everything" password be a good idea also ? Would work like this : When forced to enter / give the password to your vault, you enter/give this one, and everything the vault contains is wiped out before the vault is unlocked.

Perhaps not wiped out, but your normal password could unlock your normal store, while a "duress" password would unlock a store of dummy information.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by matt_wulfeck »

ryandrake wrote: post #184
matt_wulfeck wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once again we drum up technical "solutions" to what ultimately is a policy issue. A better idea is to change our laws so that our constitutional rights are respected. If that's not possible then the next solution is to change our elected officials.

> A better idea is to change our laws... Oooookay, sure. We'll get right on that one. In the mean time, I'll take a technical solution.

Have you called your congressional representatives and made it known to them how important these issues are? I find that many people who despair about our political climate can't even name their representative.

Start there and work your way out.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by misingnoglic »

stickfigure wrote: post #114

The right solution to this problem is, when traveling, always answer "no" to "may I search your laptop?" It sucks, and it many mean a lot of hassle ranging from confiscated equipment to being held at the border to being refused entry, but this is just one of the new risks of travel. Border security only gets away with this because people say yes. Companies need to make clear to their employees (and the public) that s…

Ill tell the TSA no if you buy me a new laptop/phone when it happens.
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