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So it actually doesn't, it's basically just a hack around the fact that the repl is basically: while True: print(str(eval(input()))) Case in point: >>> x = str(quit) >>> x 'Use quit() or Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit' I suppose you could implement quit.__str__ as sys.exit(0), if you really wanted to avoid this problem.
> So it actually doesn't It does, it just does not care. > it's basically just a hack around the fact that the repl is basically: I know what a REPL is. Here's an idea: it's not difficult to add an exit special case to the REPL. > Case in point: Case in point: the developers added a "help text" to tell users to go fuck themselves, knowing exactly what users wanted to do and refusing to do it. quit's repr didn't appea…
I'm somewhat amazed but mostly amused that the Vim developers care so little about user experience that they continue to ignore that people have trouble with exiting their tool and refuse to adapt to a more expected convention for exiting it.
It’s tremendously important to realize that Vim comes from a VERY long line of text processing utilities that stretches back over a half a century. Vim is the result of constant iteration on a set of design ideas and conventions that predates it. `Q` for `Quit` is one of the oldest Vim commands, tracing its roots all the way back to the `QED` editor of the 1960s[1]. Changing it now would be foolish. [1] http://waybac…
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Because it's an editor, and if it just quit on me every time I mistyped Ctrl-C just because you can't be bothered to type the right command, I would be quite angry.
My GUI editors quit on me every time I mistype Ctrl+Q. I don't really see the difference.
I'm somewhat amazed but mostly amused that the Vim developers care so little about user experience that they continue to ignore that people have trouble with exiting their tool and refuse to adapt to a more expected convention for exiting it.
I'm somewhat amazed but mostly amused that the Vim developers care so little about user experience that they continue to ignore that people have trouble with exiting their tool and refuse to adapt to a more expected convention for exiting it.
I spent almost 10 years doing IT for a company whose backend was based entirely on as/400. If you've ever used a system like that, I'm sure you know where this is going... The console's that the front-desk or clerical users used every day had a steep learning curve. It was something that you would definitely not be able to walk up to and just intuit. However , once you figured it out, there is never going to be a fas…
Say what you want of Emacs, at least it has a clear exit strategy.