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Re: New Surface Pro

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Am I poor or is this thing crazy expensive ?

It's a premium device, like the Mac Book Pro. You can even say it's better because it can function as a tablet (has a digitizer), and it costs less.

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If I were doing all of the latter, I think I would just ssh into a real server. But, I get it is to each his own.

Yeah and slow down every time connection is a bit slower or you want to search something across whole project. Very often I am doing search trough all files directly in Sublime and I can do that because I am restricted only by throughput of my SSD and CPU.

If you're searching across a whole project, the server is footing the brunt of that. it's only sending back the results. That's not usually a lot of data, so your connection would have to be in the kilobits to be that big of a burden.

Re: New Surface Pro

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One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

This is not correct. My employer is in New Jersey, I'm in Canada. They purchased me a Surface Pro 3 at my request, and I've never had a problem getting support directly from Microsoft, including 2 48-hour replacements.

Maybe Microsoft Support just thinks Canada is America's hat?

Re: New Surface Pro

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Everyone buying a newly released Mac this year will only have USB-C. People buying svelte Windows PCs will be getting only USB-C. Next year's Surface will be only USB-C. I'm guessing that many of the almost 400 million Android phones that ship this year will have USB-C. Chromebooks? They're going USB-C. You're just telling us that you'll be happy with legacy. That's fine with me. Not everyone has to plan for the futu…

Those are host devices. My wife's and my external CD/DVD burner, USB DAC, Arduino, external hard drives, iPhone 7 Plus, two iPads, half-dozen flash USB drives, various controllers, external keyboards and mice, wireless non-Bluetooth mouse adapters, laser printer, et c., et c will mostly still be working just fine in 2 years, and all connect over USB-A. I'm guessing I'll only have one or two USB-C things by then unles…

Why are you telling me what people have in 2017? No one is saying that USB-C is the standard now. Although in thin laptops it will be the standard this year. I'll be using my "legacy" USB stuff until it dies too.

The point is that market is starting to adopt USB-C, and everyone should be ready for the transition. I want a future port on my new computers, which will have a 5-10 year lifespan. USB-A would be nice too, but if I can only have one type, I'll take the future port.

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My US-bought MacBook has been fixed under warranty in the US, Canada, Thailand, and Singapore. There are some country-specific restrictions- here in Mexico, they are unable to fix Apple products from other countries sometimes due to government restrictions; e.g., they were unable to replace my girlfriend's iPad screen at any price at the Apple Store since it was bought in the US.

Wow, how often do you break your laptop? What do you do to it?

I bought a first gen Apple product (against conventional wisdom), and seem to have gotten a lemon.

Most of the stuff was not avoidable- image retention on the screen, worn out battery, defective motherboard, etc.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Why is it comparing battery to surface pro 4 but performance to surface pro 3?

i think 4 and 5 are using skylake and kaby lake which is a minor perf improvement. the cpu comparison is not very interesting. we will have to wait for the next intel 'tick' before cpu comparison becomes meaningful again.

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These are neat, but expensive. I just ordered a laptop this weekend. * 17.3" 1080p * Core i7 (quad core) * 16GB RAM * Discrete graphics * Backlit keyboard (at no extra charge!) $800 shipped to my door. Only thing I need to do yet is order an M.2 SSD and I'll be happy for the next 4 years. So my heart leaped a little seeing a new Surface announcement, but personally, smaller screens will never work for these tired eye…

That's a really good deal - mind sharing the manufacturer?

Re: New Surface Pro

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what sort of coding do you do on the spro? I'm going to be buying a new laptop / ultraportable / tablet in the near future, and I'm curious about this. Can you comfortably run some kind of linux VM on it? What kind of external keyboard does it support? How does the display hold up in moderate lighting conditions? For a lot of work, I've got a desktop, but I use my 2013 mbp at cafes and such. I mostly do node and fron…

Most of what I do is python, but I've done a fair amount of JS, some PHP, Java and others, as needed. I have run VMs on this, but 8GB RAM gets tight, so it's not something I do regularly. I do use Microsofts version of Bash on Ubuntu for things where I am more comfortable with standard linux tools. I use the type cover for almost everything, but I've got a more traditional keyboard hooked up to my dock. The display i…

I am going to start learning Python, then eventually Django in a few weeks on a Surface. What is your overall setup for making it as painless as possible on Windows? I'd say my number 1 frustration in PC devops and I'm trying to figure out the install with the least amount of headaches.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Top model has 1TBGB SSD ! That's 1 terabyte gigabyte or zillions of all kinds of bytes :). Typos aside, hardware looks promising, but Windows... The only place were I'm ok with Windows is a multi monitor gaming rig.. And that's because there's no other choice.

Windows is probably the best OS on this form of PC. The form itself is shit, that's another matter.

Re: New Surface Pro

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what sort of coding do you do on the spro? I'm going to be buying a new laptop / ultraportable / tablet in the near future, and I'm curious about this. Can you comfortably run some kind of linux VM on it? What kind of external keyboard does it support? How does the display hold up in moderate lighting conditions? For a lot of work, I've got a desktop, but I use my 2013 mbp at cafes and such. I mostly do node and fron…

Coding? All of it. C++, Node, frontend... The dense screen is great and flipping to portrait can be nice. Keyboard? Anything USB or Bluetooth. Only one USB port, though. Display? Pretty bright, the spec is posted if you look. Glossy, but everything is these days. VM? Sure, it's a 2 core 4 thread processor, just order enough RAM. My i7 has Hyper-V but I don't know if that extends across all procs.

A Surface with i5 does Hyper-V nicely. The current incarnation of Docker keeps a Hyper-V VM running for Linux containers, but my understanding is it'll soon just use the kernal's Linux support.
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