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This has really huge potential for abuse. How do we know the acts happened indeed?
While there are instances of false accusations, isn't the larger problem in our society that people are harassed or abused at work on a seemingly regular basis?
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> Can you explain specifically whats wrong with the comment. Obviously casual sexism. Friend or not that's not professional to call a colleague that way at the workplace.
> obviously casual sexism Do you walk around all day perpetually offended at everything, or are you just like this on tuesdays? Seriously, grow up. It was very likely someone who misunderstood their relationship (because thats important now) and was joking at getting a salad rather than a burger or something. SJWs are killing communication. The soviets did the same thing. A culture of criticism will destroy us.
You have to see the irony in making this comment while whining about SJWs and comparing them to 'soviets'.
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Some companies purposely have a laid-back culture. Not a 'bro' culture, but a friendly, social one - that includes jabbing and jiving. I love those beanbag-chair, not corp environments. Not everything that isn't corporate is 'unprofessional'. Wearing trainers to work was unprofessional, until it became established; now tech CEOs compete on who has the most expensive sneakers. > If HR was involved, it's because someon…
I dunno maybe I'm crazy but "jabbing and jiving" is the last thing I ever want at work. Directness, professionalism and - yes! - impersonal conversation - is what I would generally prefer. And as for competitive dressing. Bring back uniforms is all I can say to that. Edit: grammar
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The former president of the US was a bkack man ...and when he was reelected president, the Free Expression tunnel at NC State was spray painted with the confederate battle flag background, his "Hope" pose portrait, and in huge bold black letters the word "NIGGER". Racism and systemic oppression didn't get solved just because you can cherrypick examples well. I don't see non-white people oppressing white people beca…
And Trump was called Hitler, Idiot, Psychopath and all sorts of other things. Presidents simply attract some amount of hatred.
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#115- A female employee was allegedly called a “princess” for favoring salad over burgers. I imagine the guy that delivered that comment would be hard pushed to figure out what he did wrong. I suppose we all have to really careful what we say.
It all depends on the context. But yes, we all have to be really careful what we say. Not for fear of being shamed -- for fear of offending someone! Calling someone a "princess" for liking salads could easily be taken as an offense, gender aside. It's the same reason you don't just go around talking politics in the officf. Keep that kind of dialogue out of the workplace.
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#116I'm sad to see so many comments here worrying about such a list becoming "weaponized". TFA says that the list is anonymous, and that "usually, the people in the complaints are not named" (the cited exception being naming Eric Schmidt, the CEO, for behavior during a large company meeting). You're not going to publicly shame someone without naming them, so clearly that's not the intent or effect. The point of the list,…
Nevertheless, I need to pipe up and express that g/yes-at-google makes me feel terrified. I'm not alone either. Some people have expressed that they plan on discontinuing all non-work communication. I've done the same, but not announced it. I've also started scrubbing all my technical communication. Anything I say might be interpreted in the worst possible light as taken as evidence of deep-seated bigotry and bias. I've never had to be this paranoid before in my life.
The scariest thing is that I've seen people "called out" for comments that would have passed even my paranoid-mode filter, even on purely technical subjects. At this point, I'm scared of making too much or too little eye contact. (Either one might be a micro-aggression.) I feel that no matter how careful I am about what I say and no matter how little bias is in my heart, it's only a matter of time before I land in front of HR for something I didn't intend to say.
Programs like YAG sensitize people to these sorts of uncharitable interpretations of others' speech. They encourage a kind of paranoid bunker mentality when it comes to social interaction. They teach people that their experiences are particular to their identity, not universal among their colleagues. They teach people to punish the wicked, not work together to solve problems.
Is this the kind of company we want to have? Is this the kind of culture that any organization should foster?
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#117I feel this might be problematic. The Soviet block countries had something called a culture of criticism and self-criticism. As part of this culture, factories would orchestrate meetings in which people who ran afoul of party management were publicly humiliated by their colleagues and ostracized. What's wrong with simply firing people who are implicated in harassment and possibly reporting them to law enforcement?
I like how submissions are anonymous. Back in USSR an anonymous tip was a good way of getting rid of your annoying neighbours or rivals. Another convenient thing was that with an anonymous complaint the burden of proof lay solely on the accused, who had to protest his innocence without even being able to face the accuser. But we are half-way there anyway, aren't we?
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Can you explain specifically whats wrong with the comment. This could be making fun of a friend. How is this harassment?
Context matters, and we have none. It could either be an incredibly rude thing to say, or an inside joke between the two people.
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And Trump was called Hitler, Idiot, Psychopath and all sorts of other things. Presidents simply attract some amount of hatred.
Not to mention how many liberals take smug joy in mocking Trump's skin tone, without the least bit of irony..
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#120This is what happens when people have lost faith in the formal process and instead institutionalized gossip as a necessary system for their own protection.