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Re: New Surface Pro

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How is this a functional laptop? And I'm being dead serious here and 100% literal - how do I work with this machine while it's on my lap? It looks like it would be a real pain in the ass to do so, with the "Kickstand" and all.

It's not a functional laptop. Putting a Surface on your lap is the worst experience you'll ever have. But as a portable Windows 10 device, my Surface Pro 1 is one of my favorite devices.

Re: New Surface Pro

#122

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

> No USB-C

What would you even plug into it? It's not like USB-C accessories are readily stocked everywhere, I'm still carrying around dongles all day for my TouchBar MBP.

If the laptop shipped with USB-C people would be whinging they need dongles, literally can't win.

Re: New Surface Pro

#123

I have a SP4 and I really, really like it. But this doesn't seem to differ that much from it. Does it? :) What's new compared to SP4?

50% more battery life than the 4, fanless options for the m3 and i5 versions, on screen support for the surface dial, and a new hinge that lays a little flatter seem like the big changes. It's largely an incremental improvement.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Is there anything new in this tablet that would benefit me? Do you ever want to use keyboard with your tablet? Can you see that advantage of a pen? Is there any windows software that you might want to run on your tablet? If no, then no. Basically this isn't a tablet that is competing against the iPad, it's a tablet that's competing against the macbook/macbook air.

I use my laptop to do anything else then browsing the web. If a tablet would run Linux smoothly, I could see myself using it with an external keyboard. So I could put the tablet onto something so it's on eyelevel and put the keyboard on the desk. I guess that would work with a bluetooth keyboard? However, as far as I know the surface line does not support Linux well.

Windows has a linux subsystem now, so it depends on how you define "support"

Re: New Surface Pro

#125
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Your game needs some serious work. Maybe if your developers had 4 GB RAM on their computers the constraint would benefit them.

I am not sure if you are trying to be funny or if you are an arrogant prick.

What's so taboo about creating things under the constraints of machines that everyday people own? The best engineers are always the most resourceful and focused.

Re: New Surface Pro

#126
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One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

> - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. Not true. That is only for the iPhone. The Macbook has only national warranty.

My US-bought MacBook has been fixed under warranty in the US, Canada, Thailand, and Singapore.

There are some country-specific restrictions- here in Mexico, they are unable to fix Apple products from other countries sometimes due to government restrictions; e.g., they were unable to replace my girlfriend's iPad screen at any price at the Apple Store since it was bought in the US.

Re: New Surface Pro

#127
post #41

One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

"If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are." This can be misleading. I bought my Macbook Air in Portugal, had 2y warranty there. Then moved to the UK and the brick stopped working. Went to an Apple Store and since it was after the 1y warranty offered when you buy it in the UK, they rejected replacing it for me. Eventually went to Portugal to visit m…

There is (currently) a two-year EU-mandated warranty, Apple was even taken to court for not emphasizing this enough when selling AppleCare.

Re: New Surface Pro

#128
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Your game needs some serious work. Maybe if your developers had 4 GB RAM on their computers the constraint would benefit them.

The main map of the game is almost 30GB on its own and is a result of work of hundreds of people - suggesting that limiting ourselves to 4GB on work machines would be "beneficial" is silly. But hey, we're always hiring!

Who in hell does run a game server on a laptop, and outside office?

by the way the integrated graphics are real shit in this laptop, better go get a MSI or something. This PC's are clearly not for high end work, it's just Macbook Pro kind of "pro".

PD: I think if you're running the whole map on the RAM you're doing something wrong.

Re: New Surface Pro

#129
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I am not sure if you are trying to be funny or if you are an arrogant prick.

Considering how long you've been here, it's really disappointing that you could bring yourself to write something like this on HN.

What he wrote was extremely arrogant. Unless he tried to be funny. I am tired of people who tell you that you are doing it all wrong after a quick look.

I work on a pretty complex system myself and every few months somebody comes in,takes a quick look and tells us we just need to use framework X and all will be easy. Guess what, we are not totally stupid and have looked at it already. And it wouldn't solve the actual problem which is that it's just a very complex thing we are doing.

First understand what people are doing before telling them they are wrong.

Re: New Surface Pro

#130
post #76

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

They'll "give" you a USB-C dongle. https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/23/15674254/microsoft-surfac... > Microsoft is planning to release a dongle that will plug into the new Surface Pro and Surface Laptop devices and provide USB-C support. It’s like any dongle you’d expect, and it simply slots into the Surface connector port on the device. “If you want to charge a device with a Type-C charger, you can. If you want to pu…

Doesn't say Thunderbolt 3 though. :/
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