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Re: New Surface Pro

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Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

I would personally consider it to be sufficient, but merely being sufficient is not enough to be "the most versatile."

How many devices, with similar form-factors offer expandable ram beyond 16GB?

Re: New Surface Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

It vastly depends on your work flow. If you are like me and just using editor, browser, small LEMP stack, git, gulp, ssh and some other small tools then you are fine and 16GB is plenty but when you start doing virtualisation, docker instances, data crunching, in memory dbs etc. then suddenly 16GB doesn't look like much.

If I were doing all of the latter, I think I would just ssh into a real server. But, I get it is to each his own.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Look I'm a fan but until I see it running some real heavy artillery (Ableton Live 9 Suite, Massive, AmpliTube, and a half-dozen VSTs) in real-time vs. the competition, then it's just another hollow claim. Sure, hardware and performance are getting better. Sure, the Surface Dial is a massive game changer in the long term.

But, look, the problem with marketing to creative people is that they take it sort of as a challenge to prove you wrong. It's like ingrained. Kind of a bad habit, but, hey, it is what it is and I will happily admit I want one of these new devices and would consider it a major upgrade from my current gear.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Are you saying that 16 GB isn't enough?

It absolutely isn't. I'm a C++ programmer working in games industry, my work machine has 64GB and all our work-issued laptops are 32GB(which is not enough to actually start local servers of our game, so doing any mobile work is quite limiting). why does this apply here: because I can easily imagine artists using this to modify some assets and trying to run the game to see what they look like, but with 16GB of ram the…

What ever happened to using servers for a lot of this?

Re: New Surface Pro

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OK its pro, but it is also mobile. Who has a mobile device (not something that just sits at your desk all day) with 32 GB of ram?

I have the XPS 15 with 32GB ram, it's an amazing laptop. It becomes essential once you start running VM's or Docker etc

Sure, but even if the surface pro came with 32gb of RAM (all other specs identical), would you consider trading your XPS 15 for a surface pro? We're really talking about two different market segments here.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Honestly, $100 for the pen? That should honestly be included since the keyboard isn't.

Wow, that means they really jacked up the price this year. My SP4 was pen included. $1060 for the m3 model with a pen and type cover.

Re: New Surface Pro

#67

> The most versatile laptop. ...that doesn't ship with a keyboard (pen isn't included either). No USB-C. 16GB RAM maximum.

Apparently the surface connector can do usb-c through a dongle: http://m.windowscentral.com/why-no-usb-type-c-new-surface-pr...

Which, honestly, I might prefer right now since I still use mostly usb 2&3 devices.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It vastly depends on your work flow. If you are like me and just using editor, browser, small LEMP stack, git, gulp, ssh and some other small tools then you are fine and 16GB is plenty but when you start doing virtualisation, docker instances, data crunching, in memory dbs etc. then suddenly 16GB doesn't look like much.

If I were doing all of the latter, I think I would just ssh into a real server. But, I get it is to each his own.

Either ssh into a real server, or use (or ssh into) that clunky behemoth gaming desktop I have sitting under a desk, which I sadly use way more for work than for gaming.

Re: New Surface Pro

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One import thing with all Surface laptops that most people don't know: > Support is limited to the country you purchased the device in. Eg: - If you buy an Apple laptop, and need a repair, they'll fix it if it's in warranty, regardless of where you are. - If you buy a Microsoft laptop, and need a warranty repair done in a different country, Microsoft won't help you. I purchased a Surface Book (which I love) in a Micr…

wow, that's crazy customer unfriendly.

Re: New Surface Pro

#70

No Thunderbolt 3 as the leaks said. Can't buy it for that reason alone​. (Our office goes for TB3 Docks everywhere so Mac and Windows Users can use the same Flex Desks)

Which dock and what has your experience been with them? Seems there are very few out there..
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