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Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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As a Spanish newbie developer, past my 30's, learning on my own for a career change and without any degree (not even a non-tech degree), how are my chances of finding an entry level position in Barcelona or Madrid? What can I do to increase my chances?

I see that most developer jobs ask for tech-related degrees and at least 1-3 years of professional experience.

I'd be very grateful if someone is willing to give me some advice.

PS: I'm following a full-stack curriculum focused on Ruby (not the most popular language in Spain, I know) and JavaScript.

Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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Hello. Barcelona native here, lived and worked for years in the NY tech scene and now I am in London, although I go back to Barcelona often, and I'm seriously considering moving back. (I don't know the situation in Madrid well enough). Here are my points: On the one hand, the tech ecosystem is clearly not as strong as Berlin/London or even Paris, and the average engineer salary is _low_. That also might mean there is…

My girlfriend and I are seriously planning on moving to BCN (or a nearby seaside town) within the next 2 years. We're also coming from the NYC scene. We're not EU citizens so I can't just go find work there but I've heard salaries in the EU are lower than the US anyways so I am going to try and work remotely for an American company.

What's the tech meetup scene like there? Are there conferences? You mentioned the creative scene is great there and I'm totally into that. I'm very interested in getting into interactive installation pieces where art and tech converge. Like what Eyebeam does in NYC.

Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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> will likely involve a pay cut in absolute terms. In absolute terms, but take in mind that life in Spain can be much less expensive than living in Berlin or Paris. It depends on the area and the job. > I'm currently functional in Spanish but I have a long way to go until fluency. That's one of my goals in moving to Spain Madrid is the right option then. Has worst climate with more hot in summer and colder in winter,…

Catalan is not going to be a problem. Most people in Barcelona has Spanish as mother tongue. Catalan is more popular in the countryside. The Catalan nationalism is everywhere in the public sphere (public administration, public schools, traffic) because of regional government in hands of Catalan nationalists/separatists. Fortunately, private companies have not that imposition, and commom sense rules: most things are i…

lol so much bullshit put together it hurt my eyes xD

Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What salary range are we talking about? Sadly the link you provided does not mention salaries anywhere.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Amazon-Spain-Salaries-EI_IE... Doing a Numbeo cost of living conversion suggests at least the base salary is roughly comparable to what you'd be making in the US. The total comp numbers seem low to me, however.

Jesus the salaries are so low.

> Doing a Numbeo cost of living conversion suggests at least the base salary is roughly comparable to what you'd be making in the US.

Where in the US? Maybe in the boondocks, but those salaries are shit compared to major city salaries in the US. I made more than that working as an intern before graduating nearly 10 years ago during great recession.

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In my company we aggregate ALL public job listing in Tech companies in Barcelona & Madrid so I have some real data to share: Barcelona doubles Madrid in number of Tech Companies currently hiring: - Barcelona -> 299 startups offering 776 jobs - Madrid -> 157 startups offering 359 jobs As for language: - Barcelona -> 90% of the job offers are written in English rest in Spanish. This could mean that English is more or l…

That's how you do marketing and provide value.

Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"To tax the same to all people regardless of their income is unfair ..." Is the income tax not progressive in Spain then? Everyone pays the same marginal tax rate?

VAT is a tax of different nature. Is a trick from governments to be able to tax children and elders for example. Everybody pays the same VAT for the same product.

> Is a trick from governments to be able to tax children and elders for example.

I'm not sure what kind of virtue signalling is that, but I highly doubt that the problem they try to solve with VAT is "how can we tax children and elder people?" and more like "how can we collect more tax to build a fairer society based on our social democratic point of view? So we can cover also services for people not paying income tax."

I would really urge you to refrain from being that cynical :) it will only make you sour.

Re: Ask HN: What are the Madrid and Barcelona tech scenes like?

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There's tech in Barcelona and Madrid?`?

No, in Barcelona we get Internet access by snatching Wi-Fi from the border across Andorra. No idea how they manage in Madrid though, maybe Portuguese Wi-Fi gets that far in a clear day.
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