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Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by zentiggr »

balls187 wrote: post #88
shurcooL wrote: post #26

For me, these are the biggest concerns that motivate me to consider deleting my account (which I don't use actively, only occasionally): - Facebooks creates false endorsements for products from you to your friends without revealing this to you. - Facebook filters out your posts based on whether or not people will use Facebook more if they don’t see it. I don't mind/can put up with the rest, but those two things reall…

You can't delete your account. You can disable it, and the moment you log back it, it's as if you have never left.

You can delete your account... I had one that I requested deleted back in 2009, and then had "reason" to get back on, and when I created my new account my prior data from 2009- was not there.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by Kequc »

aesthetics1 wrote: post #11

I'm off of it and I could not be happier about the decision. Concerns about privacy aside, I realized how much time I was wasting scrolling through ads and news stories instead of photos and thoughts from friends and relatives. I didn't mind the Facebook of old where the content was mostly interesting to me, but today it is mostly full of ads, memes, fake news, and clickbait.

Facebook started to get worse after the first 3 or 4 major privacy calamities. When nobody left Facebook must have figured, well, great to heck with it then. Because beyond that point they just started straight up selling data.

People stayed on.

I needed an account again after nearly 8 years, just for one (very) important group I needed to take part in temporarily. Not only did Facebook somehow know who I used to know (and had absolutely no interest in speaking to) but every time someone visited my page it would tell me. That wasn't a feature that was there a long time ago.

Doesn't it bother anybody there, when they visit someone's page the fact you did that shows up for them? Isn't that exceedingly creepy? I think it is. Terribly creepy. It also one day knew I met someone the day before on the street, as their face showed up as a recommendation.

That is way too much info.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by lyra_comms »

williamle8300 wrote: post #92
lyra_comms wrote: post #90

Get your loved ones on Lyra instead. Lyra is an open conversation service which respects language, puts the user in control, and is designed with harrassment protection in mind. We're a nonprofit and don't accept investment.

What's Lyra? I just see a website that looks like a social media marketing agency.

Please see www.hellolyra.com

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by mozey »

Thing is, my social life isn't restricted to "loved ones". I just want a way to connect online with anyone I might bump into in the real world. I hate the fb ux and how it breaks the web in so many ways, but currently there isn't anything else that comes close. Taking my ball and going home is not an option. I wish there was some way to force them to make a decent API that allows you to do everything that can be done via the web or the app.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by nayuki »

Arizhel wrote: post #94
bargl wrote: post #27

As for me, Facebook creates an emotional connection unlike any other service out there. I get to see my friends kids grow up, comfort lost friends when they lose a parent, share with my family when something great has happened. It's absolutely amazing and there's nothing out there that comes close to its reach. If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased fat…

>If Facebook were suddenly gone tomorrow, I would feel devastated (so many memories of my kids, deceased father, mom, all would be gone). WTF? How would they be "gone"? Facebook does not control your memories. So what else would you be losing if Facebook suddenly disappeared? Photos or videos? You don't say exactly, but I suspect this is the case. If so, then that's your own stupid fault for not keeping personal copi…

Photos and videos might be easy to keep a local copy of, because you would be uploading from your phone or computer onto Facebook.

But memories cover many other aspects as well. Such as the descriptions that you write on your Facebook photos. The conversation threads that ensue. The face tags that you add and other people add to your photos. The set of photos that you selected for upload (rather than the outtakes). The way you name, organize, and describe albums.

Storage may be cheap these days, but ensuring that you have copies of your data in multiple places - such as hand-typed text - can be very time-consuming.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by funkypenguin »

natoliniak wrote: post #36
jtraffic wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been since 2009 since I deleted my Facebook account, and my timeline was roughly like yours for weeks 1-4. Then: - 2nd year, wonder if I should get back on to 'stay in touch.' - 3rd-5th year, never think about it - 6th year, wonder if I should get on Facebook so my family can see pictures of my kids. But, my wife does Instagram. - 8th year, smug comment on HN to show how long I've been off Facebook :).

> wonder if I should get on Facebook so my family can see pictures of my kids I had a realization: those who really want to see photos of my kids will simply ask me for them so i never posted their photos (pull not push)...so far, about four people have asked which made me very happy that someone is really interested in seeing them and also that my kids didn't become a source of nuisance for many others.

Been off FB for years. For kids photos, I setup an "announcement-only" mailman list on my VPS for family, and routinely email photos to members, with a footer requesting they not be re-shared without permission.

As a result I share fewer photos, but the ones I do share are precious and well-received.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by unabst »

hammock wrote: post #73
unabst wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The military has secrets, but should have no privacy. Same with the government. Privacy is the opposite of transparency. We can have secrets while we know exactly what we are keeping secret, such as Private Keys and passwords. Secrets do not hinder transparency.

So the military uses the bathroom with the door open, but... we don't know what they're doing in there?

No. They can tell us exactly. And they can be accountable. We just don't get to see them with their clothes off.

It's odd because apparently citizens get to have no secrets. Laws protect government secrets, but as far as I know the law is just as confused about privacy and secrecy as we are when it comes to its people.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by milcron »

Animats wrote: post #97

Useful hints: - Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there. - Don't use Facebook's messaging or email. - On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing. - Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters. - Remember, sharing is spamming. Don…

Uninstall Facebook's phone app and check out mbasic.facebook.com. It doesn't require javascript to run. You can access Messenger and everything.

Re: Get your loved ones off Facebook

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Post by dorian-graph »

Animats wrote: post #97

Useful hints: - Put anything on Facebook you're willing to have on a public web page. Stop there. - Don't use Facebook's messaging or email. - On desktops and laptops, run Ghostery and Privacy Badger. This keeps Facebook's "like" buttons from tracking your browsing. - Don't run Facebook's phone app. It's way too intrusive; it gives your contact list to Facebook, just for starters. - Remember, sharing is spamming. Don…

Aside from having various ad blockers (also Privoxy and a modified hosts file), I never open Facebook except in a private window.
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