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Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

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Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

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post #26

So here's my thing: Imagine a world where facebook didn't exist. Would it have been impossible for this guy to get their photos and videos, post them on the internet? I guess facebook does make it easier to email things to family and friends - but it only does so with the user's consent - you have the option to make your friends list private. It seems to me like this guy is a real creep, and he should certainly be pu…

I didn't downvote you, but I think your frame of reference here is awful. Victim blaming in these cases really understates the harm caused by these actions, and the lack of agency that the victims have in preventing them. If the same boyfriend had stabbed her, would it be her fault for dumping someone who might stab her later? Of course not. The victim has a legal (and ethical) right to take whatever photos she deems…

I don't think it's really wrong to consider what responsibility a victim has in their fate. If you know that touching a kettle with a barehand may burn you, you are to blame when the kettle burns you when you touch it! You can blame the kettle, as children do, but it's not helpful, so we teach and learn not to touch it. The kettle doesn't have agency, but I suspect that for many who 'victim blame' they see crime, disasters etc as forces of nature that don't really make sense to blame as we can't readily change them, but can predict them. Few blame babies for the mishaps they encounter because they do not know better. At some point, this changes. We can and do try to control our environment to prevent these incidences where we can, but in many ways it is wiser to prepare ourselves. Don't pave the road, wear shoes...etc etc.

  Revenge porn is a well known tactic. I'd be surprised if she didn't pause to consider the ramifications when the media was made. As per your example, I think it depends on what she knew apriori... if she could reasonably assume that he was a psychopath who may murder and she dated him and broke up with him anyway, we'd probably give her some share of the blame. From another example, If you walk through a war zone knowing it's a war zone, maybe it's stupid to blame the soldier who shoots you?

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#52

> "54,000 potential cases... and 33 of the cases reviewed involved children." That's 0.06% of reviewed cases, which is frankly less than I would have thought. I suspect that child abusers are a more savvy lot than the average chucklehead who does something like this.

"savvy" = not using Facebook.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#53
post #25

They should have a verification process for accounts beyond verifying an email address. Verify identity, it's way too easy for people to be impersonated, there's a whole TV show dedicated to this...

You need a phone number to register a new Facebook account...

They're free with Google Voice

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#54
post #18

I had a female friend last month whose ex-bf created a fake account and proceeded to set the profile and public photos and videos of them (having sex). He then went ahead and started sending friend requests to her entire family and friends. I felt so bad for her - it was awful enough to make her even have suicide thoughts. What really surprised me was how horrible the FB system to report stuff like this is. It is bas…

> Yes obviously the lesson is not to take pics like that in the first place, but sadly a lot of the victims may not be that computer savvy or mature enough to realize what a mistake those things can be.

In a lot of cases pics like that are not even taken voluntarily but unknowingly.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#55
post #49
post #18

I had a female friend last month whose ex-bf created a fake account and proceeded to set the profile and public photos and videos of them (having sex). He then went ahead and started sending friend requests to her entire family and friends. I felt so bad for her - it was awful enough to make her even have suicide thoughts. What really surprised me was how horrible the FB system to report stuff like this is. It is bas…

Not sure what the norm is, but I reported a fake account using my wife's picture (just a single, regular portrait) and it was removed within 5 minutes. A month would be ridiculous. I wonder if that happens often?

I report spam & fake accounts all the time and get responses back before the next day.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#56
post #26

So here's my thing: Imagine a world where facebook didn't exist. Would it have been impossible for this guy to get their photos and videos, post them on the internet? I guess facebook does make it easier to email things to family and friends - but it only does so with the user's consent - you have the option to make your friends list private. It seems to me like this guy is a real creep, and he should certainly be pu…

> So here's my thing: Imagine a world where facebook didn't exist. Would it have been impossible for this guy to get their photos and videos, post them on the internet?

Uhm, yes. There are a lot of venues on the internet flooding with this type of content.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#57
Somebody check my math:

Facebook has 1.13 billion dailies, and 1,800 potential daily revenge porn incidents: 1 in 627,777. Involving children, about 1 per day.. 1 in 1.13 billion?

Is flooded the right word to describe that? It actually seems pretty low to me.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#58
post #22
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect they sign up to the IWF lists for filtering.

International Weightlifting Federation?

https://www.iwf.org.uk/become-a-member/services-for-members/...

https://www.iwf.org.uk/become-a-member/services-for-members/...

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote you, but I think your frame of reference here is awful. Victim blaming in these cases really understates the harm caused by these actions, and the lack of agency that the victims have in preventing them. If the same boyfriend had stabbed her, would it be her fault for dumping someone who might stab her later? Of course not. The victim has a legal (and ethical) right to take whatever photos she deems…

I don't think it's really wrong to consider what responsibility a victim has in their fate. If you know that touching a kettle with a barehand may burn you, you are to blame when the kettle burns you when you touch it! You can blame the kettle, as children do, but it's not helpful, so we teach and learn not to touch it. The kettle doesn't have agency, but I suspect that for many who 'victim blame' they see crime, dis…

I want to live in a world with more "paved roads" and "seatbelt measures", even if it makes Facebook's job harder.

Re: Facebook flooded with 'sextortion' and revenge porn, files reveal

#60
post #54
post #18

I had a female friend last month whose ex-bf created a fake account and proceeded to set the profile and public photos and videos of them (having sex). He then went ahead and started sending friend requests to her entire family and friends. I felt so bad for her - it was awful enough to make her even have suicide thoughts. What really surprised me was how horrible the FB system to report stuff like this is. It is bas…

> Yes obviously the lesson is not to take pics like that in the first place, but sadly a lot of the victims may not be that computer savvy or mature enough to realize what a mistake those things can be. In a lot of cases pics like that are not even taken voluntarily but unknowingly.

could you elaborate on that? Honestly curious.

EDIT: about the issue, not the materials in question!

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