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Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #101

I was a 4th-year student in a maths / CS programme in Eastern Europe and had a part-time job as a web developer. Over time, I got the impression that being a dev is a low-prestige job with very slim chances of moving into any position of power. So I abandoned programming entirely, enrolled in a masters' program in economics and in 3 years got a job in M&A advisory at an investment bank. Getting a finance job was not…

> I got the impression that being a dev is a low-prestige job with very slim chances of moving into any position of power. It used to be like that in EE (Poland) in the first decade of 2000. Now, with remote jobs paying $10k+ per month and low costs of living, who cares about power? Unless you genuinely want to be "important" and not just well paid.

Seriously, $10K/mo for remote engineers in Poland?

If so then hooray for Poland, but most engineers in Germany make less than that.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an astoundingly relevant answer to my question and thank you for taking the time to tell your story. I don't have an answer yet but this gives me something to think about. I share the same interests outside of the office and the same feeling you had once the bubble burst. I was hoping to find some advice on how I could turn the experience I did have into something beneficial to a potential employer—such as th…

I'd consider also how you can pivot slightly rather than completely. Coming out of my undergrad degree I had absolutely zero interest in writing boiler plate style software suited-up in a large company. Instead I took on jnr research positions in other fields like earth sciences as a research assistant, working with satellite data and high throughput laser scanning. Essentially the computer/robotics guy for people no…

> But now post PhD I get to work in companies that are doing really interesting stuff

Isn't it crazy hard to get hired for a research position? I was told in the past that just because you had a PhD didn't mean you would automatically be able to find a job doing interesting research.

> The realities of that field have completely sucked me in forever, like nothing I've really found before.

In what way?

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #134

SALES. What fascinates me about sales is the ability to bring immediate value to a company. True value. If you walk in the door and bring in a new sale order for $100k: the company just made money. It may sound impossible todo. But it isn't. EG. Selling a twilio account to uber isn't like landing a mars rover. It is totally possible. Uber needs to send text messages and there are only a handful of players in that spa…

> "Once we finish signing the paperwork, everyone else is worthless." It is true. I think that's a fairly myopic, though unsurprising, point of view from the sales perspective. There's tons of work that goes into making a viable product that gets the paperwork to be signed. Programmers, teams, etc. are just as (ir)replaceable as sales staff; when you have the right combination, everything works well. Handshakes and s…

I'm in the IT services biz and while sales is a huge part of the process, they're selling our ability and our reputation which is based on our track record for quality execution. We don't sel them on "we're good at JavaScript" but we do sell on "we can design and develop high-quality technology products".

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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I'm sort of doing this now. I'm a full-time software engineer, and I have a passion for tea as well. I've been reading a TON about small business, entrepreneurship, etc. My wife and I are in the processes of launching a side-hustle online tea company, and documenting the whole process on our YouTube channel. It may not be a full-time gig, but we want to grow it as far as we can. So, in short, we're sticking with the…

FWIW there are some people doing small- to medium-sized businesses in Very Serious Tea here in Europe and while it doesn't seem to be Republic of Tea 2.0 money-wise they do seem to really enjoy it.

Example:

https://zhaozhoutea.com

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #34

When my family moved to the Bay Area we owned a home. Rather than sell, we engaged a property manager to rent it out. We had a few years of excellent income from that which essentially paid the PITI (principal, interest, taxes, and insurance) on our FHA-financed home (including holding a "reserve" for repairs, vacancy, etc.) plus a (very small) profit. It definitely lit a fire in my belly to switch out. I find softwa…

why not just buy something, rent it out and keep doing your job? it's not like you need to be on it full time to rent out a place. even if you have to do quite a bit of diy. i rent out rooms in my place and it's just a perfect side gig.

How do you find reliable renters? Airbnb or some other?

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #138

SALES. What fascinates me about sales is the ability to bring immediate value to a company. True value. If you walk in the door and bring in a new sale order for $100k: the company just made money. It may sound impossible todo. But it isn't. EG. Selling a twilio account to uber isn't like landing a mars rover. It is totally possible. Uber needs to send text messages and there are only a handful of players in that spa…

Any advice for engineers interested in trying sales?

I wouldn't get bullied into some inside sales or account management crap position.

With an engineering background:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Job/sales-engineer-jobs-SRCH_KO0,1...

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #101

I was a 4th-year student in a maths / CS programme in Eastern Europe and had a part-time job as a web developer. Over time, I got the impression that being a dev is a low-prestige job with very slim chances of moving into any position of power. So I abandoned programming entirely, enrolled in a masters' program in economics and in 3 years got a job in M&A advisory at an investment bank. Getting a finance job was not…

I'm thinking of switching to Finance from CS. I'm all the way across the world but I think you may have some valuable advice. Can you -- or anyone here in similar position -- share your email?

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #62

I have a comp eng degree but was completely burnt out after graduation. I jumped into digital learning instead; it's ideal for me as it's still "IT" but combined with my other favourite areas, education, product and design. The learning curve wasn't so bad, there are plenty of good WYSIWYG authoring tools with only barebone knowledge of HTML/ CSS/ JS required - although you'll quickly find that that's much less impor…

Hey, I'd love to connect on elearning a bit more, especially with your developer background. I have a similar background in content and learning platform dev.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #134

SALES. What fascinates me about sales is the ability to bring immediate value to a company. True value. If you walk in the door and bring in a new sale order for $100k: the company just made money. It may sound impossible todo. But it isn't. EG. Selling a twilio account to uber isn't like landing a mars rover. It is totally possible. Uber needs to send text messages and there are only a handful of players in that spa…

> "Once we finish signing the paperwork, everyone else is worthless." It is true. I think that's a fairly myopic, though unsurprising, point of view from the sales perspective. There's tons of work that goes into making a viable product that gets the paperwork to be signed. Programmers, teams, etc. are just as (ir)replaceable as sales staff; when you have the right combination, everything works well. Handshakes and s…

And yet, the sales person's paycheck for that hypothetical deal is still worth the same money.
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