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Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#71
"over a year ago, I've had no success in finding further work"

I'm sorry to be blunt, but if this is the case then your skills are very much rock bottom. So you have two options:

1. get better at your job. IT is in boom now, so if you can't find a job in a reasonable amount of time then there is something very wrong and you should do something about it.

2. admit that you are not only not any good, but you don't even care. But don't try to sugarcoat it with something like "to build versatile skills that might allow more job flexibility in the future" - at this point in time, being a frontend dev is probably the best occupation to have "job flexibility". In this case, of course you should try to find out what you like doing, eg. if you have a hobby, that you could take more seriously, for example.

Your best bet would probably be to combine 1 & 2, eg. just suck it up until you get hired as a UI dev for a company that allows repositioning later. For example, you can start at a financial firm as an IT person, learn the business and then use internal mobility to move to the business side of things. I've seen this happen multiple times. Of course, this approach requires significant effort on your part but offers great returns.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #34

When my family moved to the Bay Area we owned a home. Rather than sell, we engaged a property manager to rent it out. We had a few years of excellent income from that which essentially paid the PITI (principal, interest, taxes, and insurance) on our FHA-financed home (including holding a "reserve" for repairs, vacancy, etc.) plus a (very small) profit. It definitely lit a fire in my belly to switch out. I find softwa…

why not just buy something, rent it out and keep doing your job? it's not like you need to be on it full time to rent out a place. even if you have to do quite a bit of diy. i rent out rooms in my place and it's just a perfect side gig.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#73

I worked as a software developer for 3 years until RSI struck me. It took me one year of rehab to be in a situation to live normal life. Life decided for me that I can't be a programmmer anymore. I had an engineering degree in Computer Engineering and it was hard for me to convince myself that I can't type anymore. It just wasn't possible physically. So after much furstration I decided to make a change. I went back t…

I saw this thing on TV once where a guy recovered from RSI by typing with a pen in each hand, so you hold a pen and use the back flat part to hit the keys, he had some pretty impressive speed too.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#74
It's a bit similar to what I'm thinking about right now. I started my career close to 20 years ago, coding dynamic web pages (yes, I worked with php3), and unintentionally broadened my skillset into something like a CTO skillset for specific environments - I never was a really great coder, so I'm not suited for the lead-developer kind of role in an early phase startup.

Now I'm losing more and more interest in "core tech". While I find infrastructure, performance and scaling still kinda interesting on a rather abstract level, I find it more and more enjoyable to work with "people & processes", so: How do people collaborate within an IT department, how does IT collaborate with its stakeholders, how are the roles & responsibilities structured, where are the frustrations, what can be improved, how do we scale the team.

I've been doing this as a freelancer for almost three years now, and I had just two large-ish projects (about 6 months each). Problem is that both projects were started because management thought the problems they were facing were "the IT's fault", so I was hired as an interim CTO to "fix the IT". Management had the impression that I would look at the code and improve it, and then everything would be fine. However in both projects I discovered there were various severe dysfunctions that didn't really have anything to do with what the IT produced.

So staying within the jurisdiction of IT seems reasonable, but I'm also thinking about leaving it completely to become a general "organisational coach". But at the end of the day, I have no idea what to do, since right now it's hard to find clients, since my communication is rather incoherent, and people don't really understand what I have to offer. As soon as I say that I won't even _read_ code, they think I'm completely useless.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#75
> very time intensive interviews with very few compelling companies worth the effort

You will probably think this is partonizing, but anyway: I don't really get how working for a non-IT company that hurts your body and soul is better than working at a non-hip IT company that only hurts your soul. I can guarantee you that you'll feel worse at "Starbucks, McDonalds, retail" than you have ever felt in your IT job. A vocational job or maybe construction would be more suitable in doing something for your well-being, but not the kind of customer facing jobs you describe.

I dislike the interview circus, too, but there are lots of small worthwhile companies that don't require you to jump through hoops and waste your time with interview marathons.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#76
post #71

"over a year ago, I've had no success in finding further work" I'm sorry to be blunt, but if this is the case then your skills are very much rock bottom. So you have two options: 1. get better at your job. IT is in boom now, so if you can't find a job in a reasonable amount of time then there is something very wrong and you should do something about it. 2. admit that you are not only not any good, but you don't even…

> "over a year ago, I've had no success in finding further work" --- I'm sorry to be blunt, but if this is the case then your skills are very much rock bottom

Not necessarily, I think interviewers and tech teams can 'smell' enthusiasm + interest + motivation very well which (A) after burnout is around zero regardless of skills, (B) in a fast-changing field "in boom now" aka. full of fluff and trends and wheel-reinventions is much more crucially important in the first place --- just rarely ever spelled out or recognized like that

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#77
post #71

"over a year ago, I've had no success in finding further work" I'm sorry to be blunt, but if this is the case then your skills are very much rock bottom. So you have two options: 1. get better at your job. IT is in boom now, so if you can't find a job in a reasonable amount of time then there is something very wrong and you should do something about it. 2. admit that you are not only not any good, but you don't even…

I think you're response is quite inappropriate. I am not sure how you were able to deduce that the person's skills lack in someway. I don't think there is enough information in the post to make that judgement.

"IT is in boom now"

Are you by any chance living in the 80-90s? :p. Apologies but I beg to differ. My personal opinion is that the field has peaked, which is why you are finding people writing up a webpage and calling themselves a startup. Of course there are exceptions but I am referring to the majority here. There is also large amount of redundant work happening.

IT is and will always be a complimentary field and cannot stand on its own. We are now going through a transitional phase where what was once classified as a white collar job is shifting on the gradient towards blue, so it lies somewhere in between. Maybe Cyan? :).

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#78
post #69

I worked as a software developer for 3 years until RSI struck me. It took me one year of rehab to be in a situation to live normal life. Life decided for me that I can't be a programmmer anymore. I had an engineering degree in Computer Engineering and it was hard for me to convince myself that I can't type anymore. It just wasn't possible physically. So after much furstration I decided to make a change. I went back t…

Have you tried using a different mouse/keyboard or using one of those silicon pads to support your wrist? You could also try to change your posture while sitting.

I was awaiting that comment :). Short answer to your question: Yes, my desk looks like I will to fly to Mars any moment. Long answer: I rather not type or I will give myself more pain.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

#79
post #71

"over a year ago, I've had no success in finding further work" I'm sorry to be blunt, but if this is the case then your skills are very much rock bottom. So you have two options: 1. get better at your job. IT is in boom now, so if you can't find a job in a reasonable amount of time then there is something very wrong and you should do something about it. 2. admit that you are not only not any good, but you don't even…

Agreed. I don't know what the OP's situation is, and he might need some counseling to deal with an underlying issue, but his intended career move I cannot in good conscience recommend to anyone. It sounds like he's burnt out, a little scared, and needs to do some soul searching. Maybe swallow his pride and go back to basics to get some help.

If he had said he wanted to do something like become a teacher or tech tradesman of a different kind, that would be a different story, but legions of people in the low-paying, low status, dead-end entry level jobs he is describing can only dream of rising into IT employment, and there are plenty of "coding bootcamps" to "help" them get there. This guy already has an opportunity that millions dream of, and though his grip on it may be tenuous, he needs help in firming it up.

Re: Ask HN: How did you move from IT/software to something unrelated?

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post #20

I went back to school and got a doctorate in botany. Now I am a staff scientist at a large state university. Working in tech gave me a lot of financial success, but it wasn't something I was passionate about.

I went back to school and got a doctorate in psychology :)

Mind you, then I went back to software development because I needed the money. Still doing some research with my colleagues in my spare time.

Fortunately, being someone who is able to complete a PhD is appealing so some IT employers, even if it's a different field.

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