I honestly would support Apple or Mozilla from refusing to render AMP pages. I use DuckDuckGo on Safari so don't have to deal with it thankfully.
Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
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Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Checkout Duck Duck Go, still not Google-level results, but it's still pretty good, and not Bing.
Duckduckgo is a lovely idea with abhorrent search results. Like, unusably bad results, at least to the extent that I'm a reasonably tech savvy user. I'm often searching for papers as a grad student, or typing things "close enough" and hoping Google figures it out for me etc. Duckduckgo cannot keep up. I love Bangs, I love the idea, but the search is nigh-useless. That said, I use StartPage, who have a contract I beli…
You use DDG as your default engine. For most common searches it works fine, particularly nice is that if there is a wikipedia entry it will show it right there. When you have a tougher search and it doesn't work you just slap a '!g' or a '!b' on the end and turn it into a google/bing search.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I get your point, your rebuttal is a pretty hardcore ad hominem.
It's not a rebuttal - he's not trying to say Scott is wrong. He's pointing out Scott is a hypocrite. An insult is not an instance of the ad hominem fallacy.
>He's pointing out Scott is a hypocrite.
Gruber, not Scott. He's not talking about the original writer, but for the guy that quoted him.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#134I honestly would support Apple or Mozilla from refusing to render AMP pages. I use DuckDuckGo on Safari so don't have to deal with it thankfully.
AMP is built on open HTML5 standards. What you're suggesting is that Apple and Mozilla intentionally stop supporting the open web.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#135"publication independence"? Really? The man who is famous among other things for supporting the most closed ecosystem there is around: iOS, where a single company decides what apps are worth publishing and wish ones doesn't. Or does newspaper publication independence is really that more important than software publication independence. The irony is so clear that it's weird that he didn't even mention it. That genie i…
> "publication independence"? Really? The man who is famous among other things for supporting the most closed ecosystem there is around: iOS, where a single company decides what apps are worth publishing and wish ones doesn't. First of all, that's an ad hominem. If publication independence is important, then it remains important whether Gruber is hypocritical about it or not. Second, one might want apps to be curated…
Pointing out a seeming contradiction in an advocate's advocacy is not an ad hominem.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Checkout Duck Duck Go, still not Google-level results, but it's still pretty good, and not Bing.
I tried Duck Duck Go exactly because of the AMP issue. Its search results are bad enough that I couldn't keep using it even though I wanted to. I'm on Bing for now.
I get identical results from DDG and Bing, and that isn't surprising because DDG's search backend is Bing.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#137I do not understand the dislike this community harbors for AMP. I personally really enjoy the system; whenever I'm searching for any type of article on my phone (Android), I prefer AMP pages, because they load faster and are far more responsive than some of their more bloated counterparts.
This community has a lot of web developers in it. Your browser is their computer.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
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I wish there was a big red “I know what I'm doing” button on iOS that allowed the user to download and install a binary from a simple web page. But technically, you can download the source and/or write your own code, compile and install on your iOS device without jailbreaking or going through the AppStore. It's a hassle, sure, but doable.
The appstore-only policy is probably what has kept iOS from having any noteworthy large outbreak of malware. Unfortunately, the Darwin kernel as well as the various iOS frameworks have huge glaring security vulnerabilities patched in every minor update. A free-for-all unvetted code-exec option would open the floodgates for deceptive downloads and compromised iOS devices. Of course, it also makes good business sense f…
noteworthy large outbreak of malware
Depends on how you define noteworthy and large. The xcode backdoor thing was in 500.000.000 downloads.
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#139Yes, of course. Just as we are killing publishing on Facebook, right?
Re: Kill Google AMP before it kills the web
#140I gotta say, this mostly seems like an attack on the implementation of AMP in Safari than it is on AMP itself.