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Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

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Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#51

what if instead of using ad blockers we use ad amplifiers that downloaded 10 or 100 copies of video ads to make sure we got the data correct? Serving video is pretty expensive. How big are the ad networks' margins? Let's see who blinks first.

I think the internet is bad (and metered) in a lot of places in North America, so this would be counterproductive. However, it might work in Europe.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#52
post #13

Ok, honestly, was DNT ever more than a smoke grenade for muddying the privacy discussion? The standard always relied on every single shady data collector out there to act against their core interest, facing not even the risk of detection (let alone punishment) if they don't comply, all just because you asked them nicely. You might as well carry a "do not rob me" card in your wallet. Was there ever a honest belief by…

It certainly isn't a complete solution, but it probably did reduce the number of ad networks that tracked you. So yes, I guess you could say it works?

Anyone that would check that box would have a tracking blocker installed anyway.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many ways to track you, ad-blocking prevents just a tiny little thing. There are things like pixel tracking that is not very easy to detect/block.

I use umatrix with 3rd party images turned off by default for this reason.

What browser do you use? Chrome?

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

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post #45
post #13

Ok, honestly, was DNT ever more than a smoke grenade for muddying the privacy discussion? The standard always relied on every single shady data collector out there to act against their core interest, facing not even the risk of detection (let alone punishment) if they don't comply, all just because you asked them nicely. You might as well carry a "do not rob me" card in your wallet. Was there ever a honest belief by…

I work in advertising,and we do respect dnt

Oh well in that case I'm no longer concerned /s

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#55
(Kicking around an idea to build this:)

Would anybody be interested in a local DNS server that automatically updated its list of black-holed domains through a mechanism that preserved your privacy? (Assuming, of course, a decentralized representation of the block lists.)

Would anybody be willing to sell their attention by accepting payment (BTC), perhaps through a dutch auction, to re-enable a black-holed domain for a time-limited period? (Hand-waving the mechanism for ensuring that the domain was actually whitelisted.)

I'd personally be interested in the former, and would likely use the latter - even though I find it hilariously unlikely that Ad Networks or Web Sites would participate in bidding for my attention directly.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#56
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in advertising,and we do respect dnt

Oh well in that case I'm no longer concerned /s

Posted 1 minute ago and already downvoted. I think it's a valid remark (even if it's sarcastic/cynical): the parent could have given some more information about why it is so, rather than just stating what any representative of such a company would say as well.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#57
post #13

Ok, honestly, was DNT ever more than a smoke grenade for muddying the privacy discussion? The standard always relied on every single shady data collector out there to act against their core interest, facing not even the risk of detection (let alone punishment) if they don't comply, all just because you asked them nicely. You might as well carry a "do not rob me" card in your wallet. Was there ever a honest belief by…

What's up with this "Ayn Rand fanboys" meme?

I keep seeing this recently and this time I can't even imagine how it could be relevant.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#58
I always suspected Mozilla pushed Do Not Track to undermine online privacy. It was a doomed idea from the start -- all DNT does is politely ask a website not to track you. Setting their browser to DNT on did give tens of millions of Firefox users the illusion they were getting a high level of privacy (so they presumably would stick to Firefox) even though it didn't actually do very much.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#59

(Kicking around an idea to build this:) Would anybody be interested in a local DNS server that automatically updated its list of black-holed domains through a mechanism that preserved your privacy? (Assuming, of course, a decentralized representation of the block lists.) Would anybody be willing to sell their attention by accepting payment (BTC), perhaps through a dutch auction, to re-enable a black-holed domain for…

Large ad publishers such as Google and Facebook are already doing the equivalent of auctioning users' attention by proxy of views, clicks, and conversions through their existing ad delivery methods.

Re: Twitter abandons 'Do Not Track' privacy protection

#60
post #13

Ok, honestly, was DNT ever more than a smoke grenade for muddying the privacy discussion? The standard always relied on every single shady data collector out there to act against their core interest, facing not even the risk of detection (let alone punishment) if they don't comply, all just because you asked them nicely. You might as well carry a "do not rob me" card in your wallet. Was there ever a honest belief by…

I'm very conscious of tracking and I've never bothered to check that box. It doesn't do what it's supposed to and adds another data point for fingerprinting. This and that cookie notification thing should just go away.

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