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Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
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Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#12The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#13The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
From the article, "Only 78.6 percent of people age 25-54 are employed" yet we say unemployment is at 4.4. It very much smells like unemployment, as we count it, is a bad metric and that explains what looks like a paradox in economic principles.
There's unemployed and seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, under-employed, and so on
Not to mention the composite figures derived from these.
Employment Reports list all of these, it's just people want to consume short sound bites, not complex social and statistical topics.
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#14The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#15The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
It's still a useful number for comparing unemployment over time as long as the rules for how it's computed don't change.
Also:
Some have argued, however, that these unemployment measures are too restricted, and that they do not adequately capture the breadth of labor market problems. For this reason, economists at BLS developed a set of alternative measures of labor underutilization. These measures, expressed as percentages, are published every month in The Employment Situation news release.
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#16Does this factor in total compensation? Labor has been getting more expensive over time due to mandates and regulations. Additional benefits must be paid regardless of the employee's wishes, and some would probably prefer extra cash to that additional mandated perk.
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#17The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
Yeah, I hate how the unemployment number is always so lazily used by media outlets. In contrast the employment rate (60.2%) is currently lower than it was from 1986 until 2008.
"Look, here in America, there are plenty of people that have jobs, some people even have two or even three jobs! Now that's some great employment."
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#18The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
The statistic is not meant to be a trick and the BLS discloses exactly how the number is computed: https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm It's still a useful number for comparing unemployment over time as long as the rules for how it's computed don't change. Also: Some have argued, however, that these unemployment measures are too restricted, and that they do not adequately capture the breadth of labor market problems.…
At best it allows you to compare snapshots in identical situations over very short time periods assuming nothing significant is going on.
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#19http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-american-airlines-rais...
Re: Unemployment in the U.S. Is Falling, So Why Isn’t Pay Rising?
#20The rules regarding unemployment statistics are entirely designed to be favorable. Citizens who are unemployed for greater than X months (where X is a figure I don't currently recall) stop being considered unemployed for the sake of this stat. Likewise, homeless populations are not counted. Not everyone who is homeless is necessarily unemployed, I guess, but it's patently ridiculous not to include any homeless in une…
Yeah, I hate how the unemployment number is always so lazily used by media outlets. In contrast the employment rate (60.2%) is currently lower than it was from 1986 until 2008.