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The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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The drug war has failed. Legalize all drugs and tax them. Spend the tax money on rehab, schools, and public universities. We are just propping up drug lords in Latin America to feed our insatiable demand for drugs.

How does legalizing fix or reduce addictions? I understand it makes acquisition less taboo, and perhaps makes treatment a less taboo subject too, but it's not like legalization is a pancea for addiction. Booze is legal and we still have a massive alcoholism problem.

True! The alcoholism is, like the drug use, a way to emotionally resolve a problem that feels otherwise unsolvable. But to know this openly, and then to try to find solutions, is the only way out. To stigmatize and punish turning to this desperate measure only increases the desperation and does nothing to address the underlying problem. If each person is both an individual but also a representative sample of some portion of the population, it is imperative to address their issues with open-minded efforts at problem solving so that when the circumstance arises in another person we are more prepared to help them find another way out.

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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post #4

The drug war has failed. Legalize all drugs and tax them. Spend the tax money on rehab, schools, and public universities. We are just propping up drug lords in Latin America to feed our insatiable demand for drugs.

Many of the opioid addicts in the US are people who got legal meds through irresponsible prescribing. Legal opioids have caused massive addiction, and massive harm. The drug war clearly isn't working, and all drugs should be legalised, but we need to recognise that legal drugs will cause harm.

> that legal drugs will cause harm.

The GP specifically said to "tax them and spend the money on rehab and education", so I assume he did recognize this.

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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post #4

The drug war has failed. Legalize all drugs and tax them. Spend the tax money on rehab, schools, and public universities. We are just propping up drug lords in Latin America to feed our insatiable demand for drugs.

Many of the opioid addicts in the US are people who got legal meds through irresponsible prescribing. Legal opioids have caused massive addiction, and massive harm. The drug war clearly isn't working, and all drugs should be legalised, but we need to recognise that legal drugs will cause harm.

Agreed - I've seen friends prescribed opiates by doctors when clearly they were in need of mental support as well (therapy, life coaching, etc).

I'm not sure how to overcome the fact that most people do not want to admit they need help or are not able to recognize it.

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

#14

The drug war has failed. Legalize all drugs and tax them. Spend the tax money on rehab, schools, and public universities. We are just propping up drug lords in Latin America to feed our insatiable demand for drugs.

OK, but we also need to fix this problem. It's an epidemic.

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The drug war has failed. Legalize all drugs and tax them. Spend the tax money on rehab, schools, and public universities. We are just propping up drug lords in Latin America to feed our insatiable demand for drugs.

How does legalizing fix or reduce addictions? I understand it makes acquisition less taboo, and perhaps makes treatment a less taboo subject too, but it's not like legalization is a pancea for addiction. Booze is legal and we still have a massive alcoholism problem.

Presumably you take some of the money you were spending on the drug war and put it into programs to deal with addiction.

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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>Millions of Americans got hooked on pain pills during a prescription binge that started in the 1990s and peaked around 2011. As states have tightened monitoring and doctors have reduced dosages, it’s become harder for addicts to get prescription painkillers, driving many to get their fix off street drugs.

I feel like the legalization of Marijuana years ago could have saved a lot of folks while helping them manage their pain. The Government found it easier to prosecute and jail people who struggled with chronic pain and mental illness than try to help. Now we have folks at the federal level who have never experienced an enlightened moment in their lives or have a shred of empathy for the sick. All they understand is how to help their friends in the Prison Industry, Law Enforcement and Pharma Industry.

Sad....

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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Cincinnati was my home town, and its bad. People joke about it but I know at least 3 people on my friendslist that overdosed.

I'm glad the punishment for selling the drug is so high, often even sometimes receiving murder sentences for people that overdose but that isn't going to prevent people from buying / selling

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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post #8

This is a tough problem with no easy answer. Ive 2 friends with heroin problems that I fear may never fully stay clean. I don't think that jail is the right answer though.

If jail was structured around rehabilitation of the roots causes that led the individuals into the anti-social behavior that requires their isolation then it would be the proper place for someone who has been overcome by problems like this. Instead jail is punitive hell, meant to further isolate and devastate the individuals it consumes to intimidate the rest of the population.

Re: The Heroin Business Is Booming in America

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post #8

This is a tough problem with no easy answer. Ive 2 friends with heroin problems that I fear may never fully stay clean. I don't think that jail is the right answer though.

Legalization would help in a couple ways. It should free up funds to redirect to something more productive around rehab. And, at least for newer addicts, it keeps them from having an arrest record that makes employment impossible. As it stands, it's quite difficult for anyone caught using to break the cycle. They can't get work, which leads to depression, which leads to continued drug use.
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