Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

buzzfeed.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

111–120 of 195 posts

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#111

Post by JetSpiegel »

illuminati1911 wrote: post #39
paradite wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's working exactly as intended. You need a VPN to access certain websites, some keywords are censored properly. How is that an example of not working? So what do you exactly mean by not working?

Chinese government is unable to prevent people accessing prohibited content. Which part is unclear here?

You can't cheat everyone all the time. The point is not cutting China out from the Internet, but keep sensitive information in the educated elites, not the masses. As a bonus, they created parallel version of services that exist on this side of the firewall.

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#112

Post by nebabyte »

discombobulate wrote: post #102

I'm not sure how long it's going to take for people to realise: the government is not your friend. They don't want to help you. They want to control you. You are their property. You are registered and you are farmed. Like animals. Ask them nicely to stop, and they well smile back and reply 'think of the children'. Behind their dead eyes are the schemes used to enrich themselves at your expense. Rule after rule applie…

> I'm not sure how long it's going to take for people to realise: the government is not your friend

Slow your roll there m8. Government as an aggregate will of a people can do good. (I say this because a libertarian utopia would basically endgame into gang leaders oppressing people in a similar manner.)

"The government" when it is just the people is probably the best way to collectivize problem-solving efforts. (Which is why people have not and will never "learn" that lesson you are hoping they will.) As with anything, it's going to extremes that fucks us.

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#114

Post by doubt_me »

iDemonix wrote: post #77
mattkevan wrote: post #41

As a British citizen, this makes me sick to my stomach. However, I'm probably in the minority. A few years ago I went to a debate about the Internet and how it affects families, and it was interesting and rather scary to hear people's attitudes. It seemed that a lot of people didn't fully understand what the Internet was, asking why it didn't have a watershed [1] like TV does. Despite good arguments being put forward…

I think this is a similar problem to that of net neutrality: a majority of people don't understand how the internet works (in any way, shape or form), and therefore are easily swayed by the loudest parties - often the ones trying to make a profit, not protect the internet.

It's worse. Way worse.

People don't want to know. Or they know and act anyway

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#115

Post by [deleted] »

iDemonix wrote: post #77
mattkevan wrote: post #41

As a British citizen, this makes me sick to my stomach. However, I'm probably in the minority. A few years ago I went to a debate about the Internet and how it affects families, and it was interesting and rather scary to hear people's attitudes. It seemed that a lot of people didn't fully understand what the Internet was, asking why it didn't have a watershed [1] like TV does. Despite good arguments being put forward…

I think this is a similar problem to that of net neutrality: a majority of people don't understand how the internet works (in any way, shape or form), and therefore are easily swayed by the loudest parties - often the ones trying to make a profit, not protect the internet.

[deleted]

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#116

Post by nul_byte »

lb1lf wrote: post #110
corford wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggest you pick one in Europe while it's still easy to do :) I think most EU countries let you apply for full citizenship after being there a while (e.g. France lets you apply after 5 yrs, less if you're married to a French national).

What about Scotland? (I am serious!) While we're veering OT fast, I really can't see Scotland staying in the Union once Brexit is complete. There's still going to be strong ties with England, given all the toing and froing over the centuries - so I'd expect it to be quite easy for someone English to stay in Scotland almost regardless of what deal is eventually cut with the rest of the EU.

I would honestly hold off on Scotland until its known how things will work out. Scotland's budget deficit is now 10% of GDP which is larger than that of Greece. To be a member of the EU it requires a deficit of no more than 3% of GDP.

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#117

Post by discombobulate »

nebabyte wrote: post #112
discombobulate wrote: post #102

I'm not sure how long it's going to take for people to realise: the government is not your friend. They don't want to help you. They want to control you. You are their property. You are registered and you are farmed. Like animals. Ask them nicely to stop, and they well smile back and reply 'think of the children'. Behind their dead eyes are the schemes used to enrich themselves at your expense. Rule after rule applie…

> I'm not sure how long it's going to take for people to realise: the government is not your friend Slow your roll there m8. Government as an aggregate will of a people can do good. (I say this because a libertarian utopia would basically endgame into gang leaders oppressing people in a similar manner.) "The government" when it is just the people is probably the best way to collectivize problem-solving efforts. (Whic…

OK. I'll just fire up my VPN to route around the 'problem-solving'. I'll use crytocurrency when I can to mitigate the 'good'.

> Which is why people have not and will never "learn" that lesson you are hoping they will

I don't think anyone will learn anything. We don't walk down the current path because people are learning. I avoid the shitshow the best I can. Money, tech, metathinking. You all can do what you want.

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#118

Post by tanepiper »

insickness wrote: post #37
kbart wrote: post #8

Heh, of course it can't go without "terrorists" trump card: "the government will work even harder to ensure there is no "safe space for terrorists to be able to communicate online"." It's very sad to see UK becoming closed, police state.

But think of the children!

Paedogeddon

Re: Theresa May Wants To Regulate The Internet

#119

Post by lois »

This is preposterous. how on earth will they enforce what people post on the internet? Blocking access to sites via ISPs is one thing, but am I going to be fined for blogging with an unconservative/anticonservative inclination?

This is just going to push new business away, as if the UK wasn't already a sh*thole for startups...

Post reply on HN