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Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Is there a good article -- does even anyone know? -- on how did Wikileaks turn from a whistleblower into a mouthpiece of the Kremlin? Edit: some examples: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/... https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/03/...

Is there any reason for you to believe that Wikileaks is "a mouthpiece of the Kremlin"?

What about the "Macron leak"?

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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What about the secret US charges? I honestly don't understand how in our democracy there is even such a concept as "secret charges". It just sounds mind-bogglingly corrupt and out of place.

There is a "kill list" [1] which is unbelievable on its own so I don't see this as much of a stretch. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

He'll probably be on Hillary's kill list, at least.

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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He needs to face justice one way or another.

What is his crime? He isn't the one committing war crimes. He is exposing them. Yet we continue to go after whistle blowers and journalist instead of the ones who committed these crimes against humanity.

He skipped bail. Just like others do, he needs to face the consequences of his own actions.

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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David Allen Green‏, Law and policy commentator at @FT: >It is now easier for US to obtain Assange's extradition, if they (ever) wanted it. >Now only UK's consent required, not UK and Sweden. https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/86550564980685619...

Other legal commentators in the thread pointing out that he is still wanted for "failing to surrender" to his bail which can face up to 12 months in prison. This is what the arrest warrant will be for, not some secret US extradition request.

Prosecution guidance on the offence: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/bail/#a32

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Congratulations Julian! It's been a long time coming.

On a related note, for those unaware, the asylum seekers who helped Snowden escape Hong Kong are currently under threat of being sent back to their own countries (which they left for various reasons including violence, torture and rape). Snowden has called for people to help them. 56% of the €100k goal has been raised so far.

https://www.gofundme.com/snowdenguardians

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Well if you cannot question the accused, it sort of limits what evidence you can collect...

The defendant could choose not to answer any questions, so would it change anything?

It's one of the fundamentals of the Swedish legal system, you can't be sentenced in your absence or at least not without being heard

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Do they really exist though? Assange travelled to the US on several occasions before the Swedish charges came up ...

Not sure about 'secret charges' but there are these recent charges. [1] [1] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wi...

Interesting. So, they are not trying to charge him for publishing documents, but for helping Snowden.

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Not sure about 'secret charges' but there are these recent charges. [1] [1] http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politics/julian-assange-wi...

What base do these have? Assange isn't a US citizen, so he can't be charged for treason like Snowden and Manning. He just gained information and published it.

I believe the US traditionally sidesteps this legal thorn by detaining people without charge at gitmo for as long as they like. Non-US citizens have minimal to no rights under US law, so it's all just peachy

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Assange was basically, from his POV, defending his future freedom and poasibly his life, and still is. Very likely, he was right. How is Assange showing "idiocy" here? Also, from the perspective of a government, any government, 10 million is not even a rounding error of a rounding error in the defense budget. The intimidation might have stopped the forming of another Wikileaks or the rise of a 2nd assange. From this…

> Assange was basically, from his POV, defending his future freedom and poasibly his life, and still is. And I suspect, his reputation/good name. If he'd gone to trial, and lost, he'd be called a "convicted rapist" for the rest of his life.

And so he should, after all at that point he would be a convicted rapist, no?

Re: Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation

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Can seeking asylum be used as a reason for bringing charges against someone? As far as I understand, exercising legal options cannot ever be interpreted as an illegal act. I think it's much more likely the UK will pick Assange up on behalf of the US, who have threatened to charge him.

IANAL, but fleeing from an arrest warrant is very definitely illegal in the UK.

Illegal, yes, but is it still prosecutable if/after the arrest warrant has been dropped?
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