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Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by lsc »

jotto wrote: post #57
barredo wrote: post #26

I have a question about VPS, hope someone could help and not be much offtopic: I have a dedicated server (in Softlayer) with Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3220 @ 2.40GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB (which I only use 5 or 6, so it's not an issue) and 2000Gb transfer. Price is 189$ a month. Is it worth to switch to Linode's 4GB ram plan? I was thinking in getting a new server in softlayer with 12-16GB ram. tl;dr: is it worth switching fro…

if you're concerned with CPU performance at all, then stick with dedicated. VPS is performant, but i think you can yield a decrease of 10-30ms in pageload times from dedicated.

On a well run VPS, CPU is rarely the problem. Often it's better than a dedicated, because it's a much bigger box, and you can often burst to use more cores. (of course, if everyone else is using a lot of cpu, then CPU can start to suck, too... but my experience has been that CPU is usually not a problem.)

It's disk I/O where VPSs start to really suck.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by lsc »

joeyh wrote: post #105
spicyj wrote: post #99

I wish they would offer a "Linode 256" VPS for $10 a month, but I doubt that they will. Guess that would make them look cheap, which they're trying to avoid.

Me too.. I'd be happy with 128 mb at my current level of use. But I suspect they might lose money at that price point.

unless their costs are radically different from mine, (and if anything, their automation is better, so their costs should be lower) the small instances are quite profitable.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by lsc »

carbon8 wrote: post #48
jwr wrote: post #16

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$15.20/month gets you 512MB on fivebean.com. I've been quite happy with them so far.

Interesting. Lots of disk space and bandwidth, too. Looks like their acceptable use policy is a bit strict and baroque, tough. I'm also guessing the admin interface doesn't give nearly as much control as linode's (no other VPS providers I'm familiar with do).

deleted: not everything is about me. perhaps I ought to pay more attention?

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by lsc »

bbatsell wrote: post #73
jules wrote: post #68

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> Linodes of the same plan are grouped together onto a host. We adjust the number of slots on each host according to its resources and hardware specification. On average, a Linode 512 host has 40 Linodes on it. A Linode 768 host has on average 30. Linode 1024 host: 20 Linodes; Linode 1536 host: 15; Linode 2048 host: 10; Linode 4096: 5. Does this mean that a 512 host has 40*512MB = 20GB of physical RAM? If it is less…

I believe they have 24GB of physical RAM (with the remainder going towards dom0 and the hypervisor).

I find that... unusual. the hypervisor eats 64MiB, and few people use more than 1GiB in the Dom0.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by e1ven »

jules wrote: post #110
e1ven wrote: post #106

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I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience- I know how frustrating it can be to have unexpected loss, particularly here, where it feels like it could have been prevented. I'm not associated with Linode; I don't even host anything there, but I can see things from their perspective on this. With a service like this, you'll sometimes see people who never cancel a service, they just stop paying for it. Maybe their card e…

I think any money they might have saved by not keeping a backup may now have been negated single handedly by this HN discussion.

I really can't agree.

How long should they keep a backup of every user's virtual machines, after they stop paying? 20 days is reasonable, a month would have been better (If only since it's more predictable) but they really didn't do anything unreasonable.

Keep in mind, even if it's only $2/month (After redundant backus, etc), if you have had 10,000 customers, that really adds up! Keeping files forever "Just in case" isn't a sustainable business strategy.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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thaumaturgy wrote: post #112
JshWright wrote: post #94

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tl;dr; Didn't back up data/config files, expected hosting company to store data for free

> expected hosting company to store data for free I've been mocked for my opinion on this before, but ... well, why the hell not? Storage is no longer expensive, and we're talking about not large amounts of data per instance, in an archival situation -- where disk bandwidth isn't an issue and compression is totally doable. So, why not store a copy of deactivated images for 3 months? If anybody's confused about how to…

I've actually had customers who've gotten mad at me for storing data after they cancelled.

The concern, of course, is one of privacy. If the feds come knocking with a warrant, if I have the data, I'll give it to them. If I overwrote it, then I can't.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by carbon8 »

lsc wrote: post #123
carbon8 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Lots of disk space and bandwidth, too. Looks like their acceptable use policy is a bit strict and baroque, tough. I'm also guessing the admin interface doesn't give nearly as much control as linode's (no other VPS providers I'm familiar with do).

deleted: not everything is about me. perhaps I ought to pay more attention?

Double check the thread nesting. My statements are regarding fivebean, not prgmr.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by eli »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #111
eli wrote: post #76

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Well, in a word, yes. Everyone has downtime. Rackspace's downtime just makes more noise because lots of well-known sites are hosted there.

> Everyone has downtime. http://reports.panopta.com/cloudharmony/ > Rackspace's downtime just makes more noise because lots of well-known sites are hosted there. Not as many as there used to be. I don't mean to be a jerk, but it's one thing when my site goes down because I did something dumb, and a whole 'nother thing when a site goes down, these days, because a data center is having a problem. I just don't understan…

Everyone has downtime that isn't their fault.

And, oddly, according to your link Rackspace Cloud Dallas has 100% uptime which 1) I don't think is true and 2) doesn't seem to support your point.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by jules »

e1ven wrote: post #125
jules wrote: post #110

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I think any money they might have saved by not keeping a backup may now have been negated single handedly by this HN discussion.

I really can't agree. How long should they keep a backup of every user's virtual machines, after they stop paying? 20 days is reasonable, a month would have been better (If only since it's more predictable) but they really didn't do anything unreasonable. Keep in mind, even if it's only $2/month (After redundant backus, etc), if you have had 10,000 customers, that really adds up! Keeping files forever "Just in case"…

How many of the customers stop paying? Probably not many. How much disk space are these customers using? Probably not much. How much disk space do they have sitting on their servers unused? Probably a whole lot.

Re: Linode Turns 7, Big RAM Increase

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Post by petercooper »

jules wrote: post #110
e1ven wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience- I know how frustrating it can be to have unexpected loss, particularly here, where it feels like it could have been prevented. I'm not associated with Linode; I don't even host anything there, but I can see things from their perspective on this. With a service like this, you'll sometimes see people who never cancel a service, they just stop paying for it. Maybe their card e…

I think any money they might have saved by not keeping a backup may now have been negated single handedly by this HN discussion.

I doubt it. Most people who would be good customers for them would realize the complaint was far fetched. They don't need customers who whine about things that far off the gamut.

People have suggested that 37signals would suffer from their attitudes towards implementing new features or crap like Gantt charts in BaseCamp, but I don't see them suffering for it, despite the ongoing rants and raves by "high maintenance" potential customers.

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