So I was thinking recently... with Google (amongst others, of course) themselves pushing towards AI applications, it seems to me that many of these less-advanced* bounty hunts might perhaps be able to be automated with a fuzzer+scraper+AI based approach. The fact that bug bounties are still being awarded does suggest that this is not that trivial, however, but might still be fun to explore nonetheless. I.e. can one t…
Google Bug Bounty – The $5k Error Page
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#32I got all my wickr contacts to switch to signal, which is much less buggy...
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#33> 10/02/2017 – Google already fixed the issue but forgot to tell me … I contacted them asking for an update > 19/02/2017 – Got a response, they implemented a short-term fix and forgot to sent my report to the VRP panel … I hope Google forgetting to follow up on bug bounties and needing to be reminded isn't a common occurrence.
There are systems and processes to help with all of this of course, but at the end of the day it's still a pretty tricky job to get perfect all the time.
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#35> 10/02/2017 – Google already fixed the issue but forgot to tell me … I contacted them asking for an update > 19/02/2017 – Got a response, they implemented a short-term fix and forgot to sent my report to the VRP panel … I hope Google forgetting to follow up on bug bounties and needing to be reminded isn't a common occurrence.
Having worked on a large bounty program myself, and having at least one thing blow up because I dropped the ball on a response, I'll just say that the front-end aspect of it can be extremely chaotic. This guy seems like he's pretty polite and patient, which you generally try to reward with a rapid response and high touch, but sometimes you can get overwhelmed with a burst of reports, distracted by problematic reporte…
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#36I'm surprised that anyone at the big Corp actually bothered to even reply to this guy reporting the bug much less actually give him a bounty!
Where is this resentment and skepticism coming from? The facts say otherwise. Google is known to be receptive to bounties and payout.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having worked on a large bounty program myself, and having at least one thing blow up because I dropped the ball on a response, I'll just say that the front-end aspect of it can be extremely chaotic. This guy seems like he's pretty polite and patient, which you generally try to reward with a rapid response and high touch, but sometimes you can get overwhelmed with a burst of reports, distracted by problematic reporte…
What's the general signal to noise ratio for bug reports?
This comes from a variety of experiences: I used to manage a bug bounty for a mid-size company on Bugcrowd; in 2014 I surveyed people managing a bunch of programs across different sizes; I've participated in bug bounty programs for companies of different sizes.
The more you offer for rewards and the more recognizable your company name, the more you will be spammed by people submitting reports like (I kid you not): "You have the OPTIONS method allowed on your site this is really serious." The last time I looked at the numbers, Google had over 80,000 bug bounty reports per year, with about 10% of them being valid and maybe another order of magnitude being high severity (I'm fuzzy on the last bit). It's probably over 100,000 per year at this point. It's not uncommon for recognizable but smaller companies to receive one or more per day.
I'm aware of full-time security engineers at Facebook and Google who do almost nothing but respond to bug bounty reports. It's a lot like resumes - people who have essentially no qualifications, experience or (most importantly) a real vulnerability finding will nevertheless spam boilerplate bug reports to as many companies as they can. Take a look at the list of exclusions on a given program - you'll see that many of them explicitly call out common invalid findings that are so ridiculous it's kafkaesque.
HackerOne and Bugcrowd provide a lot of technical sophistication to prime companies for success, but there is an organizational component that is very difficult. If your program is very active, it requires dedication to tune it so you're not flushing engineer-hours away responding to nonsense. This is not to say they're bad - quite the opposite, I think they're fantastic. But I generally recommend smaller companies set up a vulnerability disclosure program through a solid third party, and do so without a monetary reward until they can commit to dealing with a reasonable deluge of reports.
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#38I'm surprised that anyone at the big Corp actually bothered to even reply to this guy reporting the bug much less actually give him a bounty!
When your report is out of scope, Google will not ignore your report. When there is a non-serious bug, you get acknowleged in the bug report they file internally. Finally, when they can not replicate your finding, they will communicate that with you and stay patient until they can either replicate or close your report.
Edit: forgot to add that they raised the bounty with another 2k ("we updated our payouts") and they invited me to their Blackhat booth 1 year later.
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Indeed, or sometimes I want to try certain attack vendors and the next second I am thinking I am fooling myself, they're smarter than me, they wouldn't leave such bugs in, queue a few weeks later, someone gets a few $k because they let themselves sucked into it :D. I guess it's as much mindset as it's skill.
I got a bug bounty once because I reported a bug in Chrome that someone else was complaining about in the comments section of a tech blog. If instead of just complaining that commenter had taken the time to fill out a bug report they could have easily gotten the bounty instead. Sometimes it just takes a tiny bit of extra effort to go from noticing something's amiss to actually doing something to get it fixed.
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I am a bit jealous :). I also did a subdomain search on google a few weeks ago. I stumbled upon a lot of login sites. A subdomain search leaded to 95 subdomains under corp.google.com. There is some strange javascript in those pages, there is a function called riskMi. I don't want to get sucked into it, I'm also closing the tab and going back to my terminal :).
How did you subdomain search? Was it a brute force / dict search?