Corporate campuses... where CEOs go to live in a fabricated simulation of a world that doesn't exist... where their rapacious extraction of resources, exploitation of people, and destruction of the environment is glossed over in manicured lawns, antiseptically maintained buildings, and secretaries with plastic surgery.
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A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus
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>Making something non-profit doesn't make it efficient. If your business is child-care, it's your job to know the cheapest/best way to comply with regs, build child-care locations to meet market demands, hire child-care staff, enforce appropriate rules and procedures, etc, etc, etc. You hire someone for this >Running a software company doesn't give you any of those skills. Someone specializing in the business of chil…
I think you greatly over-estimate the ease of hiring someone to run child-care for your company. Are they skilled at it? You don't know, their resume looked good to you, but your expertise is elsewhere. Are their policies correct? Again, you don't know. Are your liabilities reasonably covered? Who knows? And you still have to manage that person on a day to day basis. You have to be able to fire them if they screw up,…
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Steve Jobs wanted to make this building "breathable" and paid to come up with a custom solution and your bemoaning the logistics of hiring competent child care providers.
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Child care is a competitive business that can almost always be provided better and cheaper elsewhere. So it's much better to use stipends to subsidize employee child care. Having child care is also an expensive distraction and liability for management. Do you want to deal with employee complaints over childcare hours, personnel, facilities, etc, or do you want to spend your time thinking about how to better sell prod…
This is a classic HN conversation, a bunch of people trying to reason about something off the top of their head from their own personal experience. Childcare in businesses is a solved problem. Thousands of businesses do it, as do many government agencies. Here in DC there are in-business childcare centers at places like the Smithsonian, Holocaust Museum, FDA, World Bank, HHS, etc. Heck the public middle school in my…
Of course it's completely up to a company to do this. my point, and likely OP's point is that it seems like a glaring omission from an otherwise feature-rich campus.
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It's still a car focused suburban office park with an open office floor plan... No amount of love is going to change the fundamentals.
Not everyone dislikes "car focused suburban office parks". Many people, myself included, prefer them. I love being able to get in my car and arrive at work in 10 minutes. I love living in an area where I can drive to and park at restaurants, grocery stores, etc.
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Cheap public transit is an actual solution. Parking meters are just one way to get people to use it, and not a very good one: by the time people find out there are meters (when trying to park), it's too late to take the transit! The money it cost to install meters would have been better spent on a marketing campaign to raise awareness of the transit option, or subsidizing the transit prices.
Modern parking meter systems are very cheap — especially because you just put up one ticket automat every 200m where you can pay with cash, phone, debit card, etc and get a little printed slip of paper saying date and time until when you can park, and then put that in your car. Veeery cheap compared to actual meters. And no, no marketing campaign or subsidy can be as effective as the parking costs. As long as parking…
And this enables apps where you basically press [start parking] and [stop parking] and you won't even need to walk.
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Is requiring every adult to spend thousands of dollars a year to fully engage in society and strictly limiting how property owners use their land to maximize ease of driving your definition of 'individual liberty'?
I'm anti-land use planning without compensation, so no. If you want to inexpensively "fully engage" in society, go head and live in an apartment downtown or on a bus/train line. But don't restrict my ability to raise my kids in a home with a yard.
Do you think 70 years of federal subsidies and social engineering designed to put (initially white) middle class families in single-family homes is a state of nature?
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#427When looking at the practicality of this thing, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But it does as a monument to Steve. Then again, I'm not in design or architecture. If it's really significant in that context, it's a shame that it'll be inaccessible to people outside of Apple.
so he will be remembered as guy who wanted boring massive circle like designed in 80s? i am not big fan, but even he doesn't deserve something like this
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Disappointed no pictures of the pods
If you want work pods, these ones look a lot more friendly: http://www.matttaylor.com/public/work_pod_gallery.htm
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now i am not sure which of these two buildings it's more boring, box or circle?
If you consider scale and the engineering that has to make those happen and exist then they're both exciting. The Sears tower was at once the tallest building in the world. The design behind it was revolutionary. It's many rectangles! The Apple building is interesting in it's own right - 100% self sufficient and a new concept of what an office can be. Not everything can or should be "La Sagrada Familia". That doesn't…
Actually Chicago seem like one of very few places I would really like to visit in US (very photogenic from what I have seen), but I don't see myself visiting US anytime soon with your government attitude since 9/11 (I don't really think Trump is something really evil compared to Obama or Bush, they all essentially destroyed all my interest in visiting US as tourist by imposing all kind of totalitarian practices which go further than Chinese totalitarian gov), same reason why I didn't went to NoKo when living in China, not gonna support such gov with my money. To be fair I am not going to Germany too after Merkel's 2015 invitation to illegals.
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> It's much harder to estimate the demand of a child care center than that of a gym or a cafeteria. Not every employee will become a parent and those who do so will only have one or two children in the lifetime. not every employee (most?) is interested in gym, so why provide gym? you can make survey or research to estimate what size of childcare you will need > On top of that, some would prefer an outside child care…
> just put in contract childcare ends same time as contract, simple as that, it's just bullshit excuse not provide option hiding it behind caring about well-being of employee Not an excuse. Just one of the many logistics problems involved. What happens when you have to stay longer than childcare is open, etc... Yeah, these problems also happen with third party child care but that's the point. It might be wiser and mo…
nobody rational is so insane to expect different services from child care just because it's provided by employer, but sure it is convenient for parent