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Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by wcummings »

nsnick wrote: post #45
Veen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

It doesn't matter whose business it is, the BBC still can't use communication between you and the BBC to interfere in a relationship you have with your employer that is illegal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

It's not really between you and the BBC, it's not private correspondence, it's a public post.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by npiazza83 »

Veen wrote: post #30
heisenbit wrote: post #8

BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

Funny, I've never heard of an Officer of the BBC. I've heard of an Officer of the law and an Officer of the court. They're generally responsible for enforcing penalties, fines, jail sentences, probation, sex offender lists, etc.

If you'd like to add, "tattling to your employer" to that list I suggest you talk to parliament. They get awfully upset when you try to "do things for them" via cellophane business contracts.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by MichaelGG »

mavdi wrote: post #15
drspacemonkey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem comes down to the definition of "harassment". I've encountered my fair share of people, some in positions of authority and/or should know better, who honestly believe that disagreement or impolite comments constitute "harassment". Frankly, I'm not at all comfortable with a global media outlet reserving the right to try to get people fired in private for internet comments.

How about we start with racism? Some things are a grey area but some are downright harassment.

Seeing how the label "racism" is thrown around like crazy, I hardly find that to be a non-grey area.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by Veen »

nsnick wrote: post #45
Veen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

It doesn't matter whose business it is, the BBC still can't use communication between you and the BBC to interfere in a relationship you have with your employer that is illegal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

An analogy I have in mind might help. Say I write book arguing that a marginalized group are in fact responsible for all the evils in society. A publisher chooses to publish that book. Someone decides to send my boss a copy of the book and I get fired. Do I have cause to sue the sender for tortious interference?

I don't know what the status of private communications with the BBC would be in this regard, but if you're using their platform to publish, then I think that my argument holds.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by astrodust »

Veen wrote: post #30
heisenbit wrote: post #8

BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

Just forward them to the police and get an ASBO slapped on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour_order

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by DanBC »

Zenst wrote: post #16
utternerd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you post or send offensive, inappropriate or objectionable content Unfortunately it's not confined to simply "harassment" but anything "offensive, inappropriate or objectionable" by their own wording, which is highly subjective. If there's a legal issue, BBC should contact law enforcement, but beyond that informing others feels entirely punitive.

BBC staff caught watching TV without a TV liscense are subject to instant dismissal. Been the case for eons that company rule and that seems perfectly fair. But that is clear cut and defined upfront in the employment contract. This as you highlight is subjective and no clearly defined lines and that as you say is the job of the police. Indeed this action by them does open them up to the police being involved against…

> This as you highlight is subjective and no clearly defined lines and that as you say is the job of the police

Defamation is unlawful and is never investigated nor prosecuted by police.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by chc »

Veen wrote: post #30
heisenbit wrote: post #8

BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

FYI, many people will perceive this comment of yours as dickish. Do you want everyone to know you're a dick, or do you feel like you're just expressing an opinion and having somebody attempt to personally harm you based on it would be an unreasonable overreaction?

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

#58

Post by SomeStupidPoint »

mavdi wrote: post #15
drspacemonkey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem comes down to the definition of "harassment". I've encountered my fair share of people, some in positions of authority and/or should know better, who honestly believe that disagreement or impolite comments constitute "harassment". Frankly, I'm not at all comfortable with a global media outlet reserving the right to try to get people fired in private for internet comments.

How about we start with racism? Some things are a grey area but some are downright harassment.

Are critical comments about Islam, as a religion, racism? How about pointed comments about Israel's settlements?

Because I've heard people try to construe both as such.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Post by CommanderData »

Fifer82 wrote: post #38
CommanderData wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it becomes funded by the UK tax system? They are already contemplating scrapping the fee and increasing taxes to pay for BBC.

Hopefully we will bail from UK this time and it won't be a problem.

I doubt Scotland will be leaving the UK, its pretty clear Tories can't risk loosing Scotland.
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