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BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Seems like this is just a clumsy way of simply saying they are going to contact the administrator of the domain your account is associated with (which may be your employer, school, etc.)

Exactly. We may block your account, and send an email to something like webmaster@yourdomain.com. If that happens to be your boss's email address, that's your problem.

That happens to be my email.

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If you post harassing comments, this probably should happen. People are going to be concerned about free speech, but harassment isn't free speech, and I honestly don't believe it's a "slippery slope".

What do you mean when you say you don't believe it's a "slippery slope"? That the proper boundaries are obvious to everyone? I think the reason this is okay is that notifying a school or employer of your behavior is not the same as persecution.

There's this idea I've seen a lot lately amongst social justice activists that the correct boundaries are obvious and a simple matter of common decency, and that anyone who dares to question this by asking where they should be placed is simply obfuscating to justify bigotry and harassment. Of course, no two people's idea of where the obvious, clear boundaries are is actually the same, it's just they don't generally realise this because it's never discussed. Occasionally something happens that different members of the community do see differently and all hell breaks loose.

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BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

This would be much more reasonable if work networks or devices were used during the behavior.

"Where the BBC reasonably believes that you are or may be in breach of any applicable laws"

They are actually reaching out to claim you have violated laws. Is this not potentially libelous?

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Is it problematic if you espouse beliefs about Brexit on BBC's website? Uh oh. Careful, your boss might know you have unsavory political beliefs.

If a person speaks illegally on a forum, then the right move would be to contact law enforcement. But if the action falls below law enforcement, then apparently the BBC has its own enforcement wing when it encounters unsavory speech. The oversight? BBC's cold cultural calculations and political acumen. The consequences? Getting someone fired or harassed at work.

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BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

It doesn't matter whose business it is, the BBC still can't use communication between you and the BBC to interfere in a relationship you have with your employer that is illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

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BBC may want to rethink that. Either it is illegal and then the police and courts are the place or it is legal and then it is none of their business. What they are threatening is when they perceive their TOS are violated that they use personal information and interfere in other relationships. This exposes the BBC to liability e.g. if the person is fired they may ask the BBC to pay up. See also: https://en.wikipedia.o…

Anything you choose to publish on the BBC's website is their business. It's not as though they're going around looking for naughty posts on third-party websites and tattling about it. There is no automatic right to anonymity when posting on someone else's website. If you post something publicly, surely the expectation is that you're fine with anyone seeing it. If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is i…

> If the BBC chooses to share that with your boss, why is it different to anyone else choosing to share it with a member of the public.

I assume you never did something embarrassing in a bar? Or were more than a little drunk?

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"Where the BBC reasonably believes that you are or may be in breach of any applicable laws (e.g. because content you have posted may be defamatory), the BBC may use your personal information to inform relevant third parties such as your employer, school email/internet provider or law enforcement, [etc....]" "in breach of any applicable laws" is not quite the same as "problematic", even under the modern sense of "a pr…

They should be turning comments over to the police if they think it's a legal issue. Which makes me think they don't _really_ think it's about illegal comments.

Re: BBC Says It May Contact Your Boss If You Post Comments It Finds Problematic

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Given BBC's coverage as of late, I assume BBC will contact your boss if you make a pro-Corbyn statement.

This story reminded me of Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen trying to get an anti-Trumper fired from her position at a bank by outing her to her boss. (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/15/15640534/r...)

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