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Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by pervycreeper »

jancsika wrote: post #38
pierrec wrote: post #14

Just before seeing this on HN I was listening to Buxtehude's organ works on my way home. Buxtehude was one of the main inspirations for Bach as a composer¹, and I always find it interesting to go back and forth. But there's a reason Bach is the one that has come to be a superstar - there's the huge number of surviving works, of course, and in many ways how "the student surpassed the master", not least in contrapuncta…

> [...] not least in contrapunctal complexity and fugal techniques, but also in the incredible fluidity he could achieve with a seemingly arbitrary number of voices. Just to give a striking example of one of Bach's novel fugal techniques: Bach's St. Matthew Passion starts out with an instrumental fugue with three voices. The first voice does introduces a little fugue subject, then the second voice imitates a fifth ab…

> In other words he takes all three entrances of the fugal subject together, treats them as if they were a single fugal subject, and builds an outer fugue out of that.

This is not in any way an accurate description.

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by mixedbit »

jancsika wrote: post #38
pierrec wrote: post #14

Just before seeing this on HN I was listening to Buxtehude's organ works on my way home. Buxtehude was one of the main inspirations for Bach as a composer¹, and I always find it interesting to go back and forth. But there's a reason Bach is the one that has come to be a superstar - there's the huge number of surviving works, of course, and in many ways how "the student surpassed the master", not least in contrapuncta…

> [...] not least in contrapunctal complexity and fugal techniques, but also in the incredible fluidity he could achieve with a seemingly arbitrary number of voices. Just to give a striking example of one of Bach's novel fugal techniques: Bach's St. Matthew Passion starts out with an instrumental fugue with three voices. The first voice does introduces a little fugue subject, then the second voice imitates a fifth ab…

Do you find such things by listening to the music or by analyzing notes?

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by Freak_NL »

I really like AllOfBach's attempt to provide free/gratis recordings of, eventually, all of Bach's repertoire; it is a laudable endeavour.

What disappoints me is the lack of vision on how this cultural resource can be maintained and spread amongst whoever benefits from it in the long term. All the copyrights appear to reside with the Netherlands Bach Society, and there appears to be no legal way to spread this resource beyond streaming it via Vimeo (for which by the way you need to allow cookies for player.vimeo.com if you use Privacy Badger).

These are high quality recordings by excellent musicians, it's a shame that copyright encumbers it without some open culture license like Creative Commons.

I should really take the time to write them and ask about their views on this topic.

Edit: I should perhaps say middle-to-long-term, as copyright might eventually expire (if we are lucky).

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

andrewbinstock wrote: post #41
siegel wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spend any time with the St. Matthew and St. John Passions and I don't see how anyone could deny Bach's music is passionate (no pun intended...really).

Or the great Chaconne for solo violin.

That is one of the great masterpieces of Western music.

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by badosu »

graycat wrote: post #24
pierrec wrote: post #14

Just before seeing this on HN I was listening to Buxtehude's organ works on my way home. Buxtehude was one of the main inspirations for Bach as a composer¹, and I always find it interesting to go back and forth. But there's a reason Bach is the one that has come to be a superstar - there's the huge number of surviving works, of course, and in many ways how "the student surpassed the master", not least in contrapuncta…

People who know me say I'm a super music fan. Yup. I liked it well enough to get a violin and dig in, especially to Bach. For violin I have low talent, started too late, and didn't practice enough, but, still I made it through the Preludio of the E Major Partita and the D Major center section of the Chaconne. From all the possible analyses I've seen of Bach, finally I come down on just one core point: He was one heck…

This piece is simply breathtaking, I find this version on guitar more expressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNEnzNHTkd8

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #40

I love organ music. And it's important to note that Organ recitals (that is, Organ performances not part of a religious service) are not a rare thing! For example, there are two recitals at Stanford's Memorial Church scheduled next month: • June 5, a recital by Ethan Williams, Stanford student. https://events.stanford.edu/events/673/67311/ • June 16, the annual Commencement Organ recital of Dr. Morgan, Stanford Unive…

Ohhh, and the June 16th recital is the organ works of Duruflé, who is unquestionably one of the finest organ composers of the 20th century. I can't recommend that highly enough.

(And the organist, Robert Huw Morgan, taught at my school when I was a kid: he rejoiced under the predictable nickname of Organ Morgan.)

Re: Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier – BWV 731 [video]

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Post by coolandsmartrr »

letier wrote: post #39
captbaritone wrote: post #15

Perhaps relevant: http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/

I know I'm slowly going off topic here. :) But check out the Glenn Gould version, as well. Also Jacques Loussier has some nice Bach interpretations.

As for the GG renditions, check out in 1955 recording first followed by 1981. The first recording was already amazing in its own right, but it's astounding to realize how much a proficient musician can mature even further. Steve Jobs famously contrasted these recordings in his authorized biography.
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