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ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

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Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#21
I'm continually surprised that Bittorrent is still relying on content indexing websites. The edonkey community solved this problem years ago with fully distributed search that only relies on the peers themselves[0].

Can anyone with insight into the BT comunity/technology offer any ideas why they never moved in this direction?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#22
post #7

I was about to add them to our tracker list. :( https://github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo There's something really sad when these sites die, a part of my teenage life is gone for good. I felt the same way when Demonoid shut down. Can these sites skate the legality line by offering only magnet links? Why are their costs so high if they can just host magnet links and cache the site with Varnish or something similar?

I spent all of high school and early college on What.cd. I felt the same way when it disappeared.

Has anything close popped back up yet? There was stuff that I couldn't even buy if I wanted to.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#23
post #21

I'm continually surprised that Bittorrent is still relying on content indexing websites. The edonkey community solved this problem years ago with fully distributed search that only relies on the peers themselves[0]. Can anyone with insight into the BT comunity/technology offer any ideas why they never moved in this direction? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia

Its because bit torrent trackers are much more than just an index of torrents. They need a huge support system with forums, membership systems, point systems, funding drives, etc. If you look at the software that runs these sites you will see that moving to a distributed platform would not be so easy.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

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post #23
post #21

I'm continually surprised that Bittorrent is still relying on content indexing websites. The edonkey community solved this problem years ago with fully distributed search that only relies on the peers themselves[0]. Can anyone with insight into the BT comunity/technology offer any ideas why they never moved in this direction? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kademlia

Its because bit torrent trackers are much more than just an index of torrents. They need a huge support system with forums, membership systems, point systems, funding drives, etc. If you look at the software that runs these sites you will see that moving to a distributed platform would not be so easy.

Unless I misunderstood you, none of that is relevant if you're not using index sites in the first place.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#25
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent all of high school and early college on What.cd. I felt the same way when it disappeared.

Has anything close popped back up yet? There was stuff that I couldn't even buy if I wanted to.

Yes actually: redacted.ch is the continuation of it.

Quite a large community at the moment. I would however say that the original torrents that were uploaded when they first re-opened it (it was called Pass The Headphones) a lot of the torrents were junk, but the moderators have done a wonderful job allowing torrents to be "trumped".

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#26
post #18

It's 2017 and I'm so surprised that BT is still the dominant way to share copyrighted works illegally. Why hasn't a fully decentralized and E2E encrypted alternative replaced it? Who wants to actually run trackers these days? F2F software like http://retroshare.net/ exists, but nobody is using it.

How would that work? I believe you can still get caught with such systems, because if somebody can download from your machine, that somebody could just as well be a government agent. Unless it uses something like Tor, but in that case it could become illegal to run exit nodes. The person running the exit node could legally be considered an accomplice.

Retroshare has anonymous tunnels.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#27

It's 2017 and I'm so surprised that BT is still the dominant way to share copyrighted works illegally. Why hasn't a fully decentralized and E2E encrypted alternative replaced it? Who wants to actually run trackers these days? F2F software like http://retroshare.net/ exists, but nobody is using it.

Because it has the lowest friction ? There are dozens of software speaking bittorrent already (instead of only retroshare speaking retroshare), there is a lot of resource on the web explaining how to start download, there is no need to gather friends as a F2F desires.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

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post #24
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its because bit torrent trackers are much more than just an index of torrents. They need a huge support system with forums, membership systems, point systems, funding drives, etc. If you look at the software that runs these sites you will see that moving to a distributed platform would not be so easy.

Unless I misunderstood you, none of that is relevant if you're not using index sites in the first place.

I'm not sure if you can make magnet links work in a private tracker setting. Private trackers embed the user's key in the torrent file.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

#29

It's 2017 and I'm so surprised that BT is still the dominant way to share copyrighted works illegally. Why hasn't a fully decentralized and E2E encrypted alternative replaced it? Who wants to actually run trackers these days? F2F software like http://retroshare.net/ exists, but nobody is using it.

Bittorrent doesn't need trackers anymore. Use DHT to find a node with part of the file you want, and peer exchange to query that node for the other nodes that have the rest of the file.

Re: ExtraTorrent Shuts Down for Good

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post #24
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its because bit torrent trackers are much more than just an index of torrents. They need a huge support system with forums, membership systems, point systems, funding drives, etc. If you look at the software that runs these sites you will see that moving to a distributed platform would not be so easy.

Unless I misunderstood you, none of that is relevant if you're not using index sites in the first place.

There is more of an incentive if you have a private site with a forum and community and you're not just releasing illegal shit onto the internet.
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