Don't tell people to turn off Windows Update

Have you ever looked into the mirror and maybe thought you worked hard to build your view of MS? Have you ever considered that MS of today isn't the same MS of 25 years ago?

I'm pushing 41.. I've been into computers since i was 8. I've been through wishing OS/2 would win, Hating on Windows for years, begrudgedly using WIn95 OSR2.. I was the first BBS in Houston to offer Linux to download on 8 floppy disk images, i was the first to mirror a larger FTP site for Linux distros (ygdddrasil), I use Linux on THOUSANDS of computers - i work for a larger internet company running 10-s THOUSANDS of servers running Linux.. sometimes i wish they were all solaris since that was what really grabbed my hart but guess what - things change - systems change - people change - companies change.

Today i sport a Surface Pro 4, an iPhone 7, a MacBook pro and a Ryzen 1700 as my primary compute/phone devices.. I use them all. Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 4 is the best mobile experience I've ever had. i have Ubuntu/Suse/Redhat as bootable native shells, i have a web browser with extension support, gesture support and great experience, i have power shell, i have hyperv if i need it, i have docker - the experience in windows 10 lately far surpasses the experience of say - docker on OSX which has always been very goofy until recently and now with docker on windows i can run windows or Linux native containers.

MS is not only providing lots of open source code but they're a HUGE sponsor of the Linux foundation - a SUPPORTING member - the biggest you can achieve.

As for update times, you can schedule your updates. If you need to upgrade your android phone, you're not going to be able to use it during the upgrade - same with your PC, if you have pending updates - just schedule them when you need them.

You're still defending everyone else for facing the same problems MS does and for some reason, still hating MS for solving problems that need to be solved.

I for one am SO FREAKING GLAD windows doesn't fester for years between "Service packs" that then took years to get released because people had it in their goofy heads that people actually tested them for them.. i'm so glad that windows finally releases iterative updates on TUESDAYS and everyone in the world knows when PATCH TUESDAY IS if they run windows.. if you KNOW patch Tuesday is coming up, reboot when you're done patching on TUESDAY.

It really isn't as hard as everyone is making it out to be.

Now that I've written all this, its laughable how hard people are making this appear to be.

Criticism is not hate. You need to distinguish these two. Until you can, there's no point in continuing a debate.

I hope the responsible people at Microsoft are better at receiving and processing the information regarding their products and the problems with them.

You're picking edge cases of machines that you can't/couldn't verify and speaking in half truths.

Yes, Microsoft had some updates that updated some machines but they fixed that so it wouldn't. Yes, MS mad some silly assumptions to cache the update - that isn't what this is about.

THis is about the fact that the HVAC company SHOULD have upgraded. They should have known their outdated/unsupported OS constitutes a security risk and THEY should have corrected it and not assumed to leave it up to users who have/had no clue.

Windows 10 "Redstone 2" allows you to disable the supposed "spyware" that isn't really spyware when compared against any other OS out there. There are also easily abundant scripts to completely remove the concept of the store and anything attached to it from ever starting.. luckily you can do that on Windows 10 and pretend being isolated is what matters more than being current..

As for the ads, its supid easy to turn off the notifications. There is this "Notification center" where when you see the Office Notification - just click "don't show notifications for this app" and its gone. And if you see "Recommend apps" in start bar, click click and disable show recommended apps.

Both are dumb defaults, we can agree on that, but they're there and they can be removed/disabled. It's not that hard.

A combination of IT policies and short sighted programmers.