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Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

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Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#33

It's probably the wrong thread to share my hopes for the next-gen but still. My family owns four 2016 models (maxxed out both 13 inch and 15 inch, a pair used at a day job and a pair is personal) and we all experience similar issues: a) Touch Bar reacting to fingers that are accidentally touch it while resting. Causes a lot of volume and Esc triggers. Latter is particularly annoying at it usually cleans Slack/Skype/o…

I have the non touchbar version. The keyboard is the one thing that has surprised me. I've done a complete 180 and love it. I bought this to replace my 2008 Macbook and at first found the travel too shallow but now I can actually type much faster than on the old one and I'm convinced it's better. I hope that any of the issues you mention come up within the 1 year warranty period though.

Your issues about the touch bar are the reason I bought the non touch bar version, I use function keys too much to have the physical ones gone, also I'd rather not have it go to sleep and prefer to have the bigger battery. EDIT: just adding that I did spend time testing the touch bar version in the Apple store as the price difference was not a major factor for this type of one time purchase for me, and I think if it's a good idea to do so if you live near one.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

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Didn't see any word as to if this refresh would also be improving any of the other criticisms of the 2016 model like the RAM for example. Does anyone have any inside information or insight on that?

The ram issue was purportedly about battery life. The 2016 mbp uses LPDDR3 ram, which limited the device to 16GB.[0] They couldn't use LPDDR4 ram, even though it was available at the time, because Skylake chipsets didn't support it. If the rumors are true that this year's model will use Kaby Lake, which will open up for the possibility of LPDDR4 and higher capacities. [0] https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/28/new-macb…

Doesn't look like Kaby Lake supports LPDDR4: http://ark.intel.com/products/97462/

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#35

It's probably the wrong thread to share my hopes for the next-gen but still. My family owns four 2016 models (maxxed out both 13 inch and 15 inch, a pair used at a day job and a pair is personal) and we all experience similar issues: a) Touch Bar reacting to fingers that are accidentally touch it while resting. Causes a lot of volume and Esc triggers. Latter is particularly annoying at it usually cleans Slack/Skype/o…

I disagree on the last point. I think Apple moving up spec refreshes of the MBP to Q2 makes a lot of sense given that Intel's release cycle on chips tends to be Q4. A small Kaby Lake refresh in the MBP, potentially with a 32gb RAM option on the 15" model, could very well be in the cards.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#36

It's probably the wrong thread to share my hopes for the next-gen but still. My family owns four 2016 models (maxxed out both 13 inch and 15 inch, a pair used at a day job and a pair is personal) and we all experience similar issues: a) Touch Bar reacting to fingers that are accidentally touch it while resting. Causes a lot of volume and Esc triggers. Latter is particularly annoying at it usually cleans Slack/Skype/o…

>c) I don't get why Apple changed default/native resolution to be non-retina trading extra screen real estate for image quality.

You seem confused. The default/native resolution IS Retina.

Retina is exactly about trading "extra screen real estate for image quality".

There's no "change", that was what Retina was about all along.

The other mode doesn't make much sense -- to have larger dpi but tiny screen elements on 15" or 13" screen, and scalable doesn't work as well with legacy apps and most stuff than "pixel doubling" does.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#38

Seems like fake news. Apple rarely introduces new hardware in WWDC. And the ammount of references to the Surface Laptop make it read a bit like sarcasm, even though it surely does not seem intended. "Part of the motivation with these upgrades is to remain competitive with Microsoft and its newly introduced Surface Laptop"

I don't think this is true - 2013's WWDC had new macbook airs, for example: https://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/06/10/everything-announced...

iPhones were originally announced at WWDC too. It wasn't until the 4s that it got bumped back to the now-traditional September announcement. They've also announced new Macs in many years, displays, the iSight webcam, and some AirPort hardware.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#39

Is there any information on how well the latest MBP model has sold? I want to see Apple's bottom line being hit by the poor decision making. I personally went for a dell XPS 13 (and I'm regretting it, but that's another story).

They are their best selling macbooks ever.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#40

Is there any information on how well the latest MBP model has sold? I want to see Apple's bottom line being hit by the poor decision making. I personally went for a dell XPS 13 (and I'm regretting it, but that's another story).

Please, could you share why you are regretting this decision to buy an XPS 13? I'm considering buying one for technical investigations (mainly, ensuring that Illumos and Open Indiana runs on this).
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