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Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

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Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#21

Given the news about a Core i9 leak ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/15/intel-could-be-about-to-re... ) I would not be surprised if Apple had cut a deal with Intel to make a sku for the macbook pro.

Apple mentioned something on a special "extreme" iMac model during their Mac Pro apologizing meeting last month. I'd assume i9 would be the right fit: something like 22-core Xeon would've been too expensive but single i9 would likely be just right.

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#22
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is true - 2013's WWDC had new macbook airs, for example: https://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/06/10/everything-announced...

While it may be true that Apple sometimes released hardware at WWDC in the last decade, there's still the elephant in the room; Why have no big name sites like fool.com or wsj put their name on this "leak" if it is real? When there's real hardware coming, those guys usually get the inside scoop (and preview hardware if weeks from release). They'd be furious if Apple let small beans sites scoop them. https://www.wsj.c…

If the WSJ etc. does have a version to test they're most likely banned from talking about it (inc. rumours).

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#23

It's probably the wrong thread to share my hopes for the next-gen but still. My family owns four 2016 models (maxxed out both 13 inch and 15 inch, a pair used at a day job and a pair is personal) and we all experience similar issues: a) Touch Bar reacting to fingers that are accidentally touch it while resting. Causes a lot of volume and Esc triggers. Latter is particularly annoying at it usually cleans Slack/Skype/o…

I totally agree with your statements.

I'd also add that the battery life is pretty woeful compared to a 13"MBA, I can't get more than 2 hours meaningful work done on mine.

The touchbar at time is slow and stutters.

The touch pad is too big and very often gets spurious inputs when typing. It acts like a "good PC touch pad", not the perfection of only a generation ago.

Power management with external monitors is also hit and miss. The device will often not wake in closed lid mode with presses to the keyboard.

The inclusion of Touch ID is great but whatever changes done under ttt hood has turned searching Keychain manager into molasses.

All in all this is the worst Mac laptop I've ever purchased, and I've purchased 1-2 per year since 2000. The only thing keeping me on the hardware is OS X.

I have to say M$'s new hardware looks very tempting.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#24

Given the news about a Core i9 leak ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/15/intel-could-be-about-to-re... ) I would not be surprised if Apple had cut a deal with Intel to make a sku for the macbook pro.

Those CPUs in the leak have TDP values of over 100W. Not very suitable for slim laptops like MBP. Or was there something for mobile market as well?

There was no discussion of a mobile SKU that I could see, which is what made me wonder when I read the news. If you look at Intel presentations, and over the years I've looked at a lot of them, they tend to present 'complete' families of their lines. So the budget sku, the high power sku, the low power sku, the enthusiast sku, etc. the ones you would put in laptops seemed to be missing.

There are probably more than one possible explanations about that, but one that has happened in the past has been a vendor has asked for (and received) Intel's commitment to give them all of the early production.

And so I thought "I wonder if this is the part in the rumoured Surface Pro 5?" but it wasn't because Microsoft announced the Surface Laptop. And now we here "ooh, big Apple announcement coming up." and I note that the last Macbook pro announcement was underwhelming to say the least, and Microsoft is making annoying[1] noises about how their laptop is faster/thinner/better than anything Apple makes, and that makes me wonder if Apple decided to do something about it and make an update to the Macbook pro that they knew No one else would be able to beat because they bought exclusive early access to the chip that they use.

Entirely speculation at this point of course, and I will not be shocked to be completely wrong here. But I also wouldn't be surprised if this is what they announce.

[1] Annoying to Apple but fun for consumers as they get more choices and the competition keeps everyone on their toes.

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#25
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it may be true that Apple sometimes released hardware at WWDC in the last decade, there's still the elephant in the room; Why have no big name sites like fool.com or wsj put their name on this "leak" if it is real? When there's real hardware coming, those guys usually get the inside scoop (and preview hardware if weeks from release). They'd be furious if Apple let small beans sites scoop them. https://www.wsj.c…

If the WSJ etc. does have a version to test they're most likely banned from talking about it (inc. rumours).

I think the OP is referring to the precisely timed leaks by Apple PR.

These are the articles with the words: "unnamed sources within Apple...".

An example of this was leaking the lack of 3.5mm earphone jack a year ahead so when it was launched the lack of the jack was old news, and not th focus of the news.

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#26
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is true - 2013's WWDC had new macbook airs, for example: https://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/06/10/everything-announced...

While it may be true that Apple sometimes released hardware at WWDC in the last decade, there's still the elephant in the room; Why have no big name sites like fool.com or wsj put their name on this "leak" if it is real? When there's real hardware coming, those guys usually get the inside scoop (and preview hardware if weeks from release). They'd be furious if Apple let small beans sites scoop them. https://www.wsj.c…

Bloomberg reported it: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-16/apple-sai...

Re: Apple Plans MacBook And MacBook Pro Kaby Lake Refresh For WWDC

#27
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably takes more than a week or two to update the product.

You're misunderstanding my point: the laptops should have had Kaby Lake to begin with.

And his point is, I think, that waiting for Kaby Lake would have delayed the launch by more than one or two weeks.

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#28
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is true - 2013's WWDC had new macbook airs, for example: https://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/06/10/everything-announced...

While it may be true that Apple sometimes released hardware at WWDC in the last decade, there's still the elephant in the room; Why have no big name sites like fool.com or wsj put their name on this "leak" if it is real? When there's real hardware coming, those guys usually get the inside scoop (and preview hardware if weeks from release). They'd be furious if Apple let small beans sites scoop them. https://www.wsj.c…

Bloomberg was the source

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-16/apple-sai...

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#29
I would like a refresh of the MacBook Pro that would include much-requested features, like one additional row of keys (including the ESC key), ports that you can connect something to (like USB-A) and an SD card slot. I would have no problem with the new laptop being slightly thicker than the current generation, especially if we could get good, reliable keyboards.

I'd upgrade my MacBook Pro in an instant, gladly paying a price premium for those (premium) features.

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#30

It's probably the wrong thread to share my hopes for the next-gen but still. My family owns four 2016 models (maxxed out both 13 inch and 15 inch, a pair used at a day job and a pair is personal) and we all experience similar issues: a) Touch Bar reacting to fingers that are accidentally touch it while resting. Causes a lot of volume and Esc triggers. Latter is particularly annoying at it usually cleans Slack/Skype/o…

I'd like to see them go more towards the XPS13. 13" screen in 11" body. Add a tiny edge to the top, run a cable behind the screen to add the iSight above the screen, voila. Also baffles me that Dell didn't go for that option, instead of the chincam they have now..
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