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Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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This person is male. Could we please avoid the biologically nonsensical charade of referring to him as"she"?

> This person is male. Bold claim. The burden of proof is on you. Please explain to everyone why without using any logical fallacies.

It's called Gender Dysphoria and it's a mental illness, it's in the DSM, look it up, you know how to use Google.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Then could the downvoters please explain to me how this male is supposed to be female?

Simple: A person's gender is a part of their personal identity. Chelsea Manning says that their gender is female, even if their biological sex is male. As a consequence of respect for their personal identity as a member of society (and NOT fixating on their sex organs, which is frankly creepy), most people will refer to a trans* person as the gender they identify as, not the sex they were born with. Or, if uncertain…

> Simple: A person's gender is a part of their personal identity.

That's an opinion.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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> This person is male. Bold claim. The burden of proof is on you. Please explain to everyone why without using any logical fallacies.

It's called Gender Dysphoria and it's a mental illness, it's in the DSM, look it up, you know how to use Google.

So is antisocial personality disorder.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

#46

This is long overdue. Chelsea will probably be doing interviews soon, and since [she's already been pretty outspoken about internet freedoms][1], she may even bring some much needed attention to issues like net neutrality, government surveillance and the never ending erosion of our online rights. Let's hope the media doesn't tear her apart. [1]: https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/847264510247190532

Unfortunately, many of the people that need convincing with regards to net neutrality and online rights also view her as a traitor with mental problems and thus "normal, patriotic Americans" should not worry about these things, except to prevent "liberals" from creating more "regulations" for companies and putting up barriers to keep our law enforcement from finding the "terrorists'" plans.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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It's totally relevant. Trans people experience attacks at a much higher rate than the background population.

Most attacks on trans people are due to prostitution. Not even remotely related to this story.

Gee, with attitudes like that, I wonder why trans folks often have to resort to jobs on the fringes of society with little safety, security, or legal protection?

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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This person is male. Could we please avoid the biologically nonsensical charade of referring to him as"she"?

Debating whether they are male or female seems rather pointless to me, it's a question of definitions. If they want to be referred to as a she, I don't see that it costs us anything to comply with their desire though... so I do.

So if I told you to address me as a King, you'd do that too?

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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It's totally relevant. Trans people experience attacks at a much higher rate than the background population.

Most attacks on trans people are due to prostitution. Not even remotely related to this story.

source on that?
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