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Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Post by panzer_wyrm »

While not rotting in prison is great - isn't it strange that Manning was pardoned, while there are a lot more pardon deserving persons among the other whistleblowers of the era.

Nothing good or interesting came from those leaks. And they were legitimate threat to US security. And Snowden ones were responsible, curated and only in the areas where rights of US citizens were infringed.

And yet he is stranded in Russia (1/6 of the world, so not bad).

What is the lesson - if you leak, leak more severe?

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Post by CiPHPerCoder »

datatan wrote: post #18

Extremely rare and almost exclusive leftists killing people on the right. Like the JFK assassination (JFK was a conservative)

> Extremely rare and almost exclusive leftists killing people on the right.

Interesting claim. I'm not sure many people on the left killed doctors for performing abortions, for example. That was mostly "pro life" conservatives, from what I recall.

Why are we even talking about this? Partisan politics isn't relevant.

Chelsea Manning is free. This is cause for celebration.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Post by grandalf »

adamnemecek wrote: post #10

"During one of his final acts in office, President Barack Obama commuted Manning's sentence in January, thereby giving her an early release date." For anyone else wondering where this is coming from.

While I'm very pleased that President Obama commuted the sentence of Ms. Manning, I'm also disappointed that he did not do more to change the policy about classifying information that allows classification to be used as a form of propaganda (by classifying the stuff that contradicts the message we're meant to believe about a war).

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Post by coldtea »

fsloth wrote: post #11
pavel_lishin wrote: post #2

I hope she's alright after this; there might be people literally gunning for her, even if she wasn't trans.

I don't think political murders targeting individuals are that common in the US. Or am I completely wrong?

How would one know?

Because of the media, power balances, legalities etc of US life, they obviously wouldn't be doing them in an open Third World/Banana Republic style (where, depending on the country/political climate, the state doesn't hesitate much to semi-openly get rid of enemies and more or less everybody knows they did it).

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Post by callinyouin »

beaconstudios wrote: post #13
loeg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's totally relevant. Trans people experience attacks at a much higher rate than the background population.

it's on a different scale of threat though. It seems like a weird inclusion - the idea that being trans considerably increases the risk profile of someone who was an informant on the US military complex.

Think of it this way: I've perused enough local news comment sections to know that people who are inclined to find Chelsea Manning to be a traitor are also generally more inclined to hate trans people. So, maybe this doesn't increase the risk of her being targeted by trained assassins or government spies, but it does probably increase her risk of being targeted for a hate crime.

Re: Chelsea Manning released from prison

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Post by myaccountzz »

jfabre wrote: post #19
fsloth wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think political murders targeting individuals are that common in the US. Or am I completely wrong?

Even though it's not proved, Seth Rich comes to mind. (edit removed the yet in "proved yet")

I mean it's pretty obvious that it was a political murder at this point. Of course liberal HN will down-vote you even if there was video evidence.
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