$1/GB AYFKM? That's ridiculous. Should be about $0.01/GB.
A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
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Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#62Is there a large difference between using Firebase Database and another hosted DBaaS, such as MongoDB Atlas? I use Firebase Database but keep it arms length by avoiding any of the proprietary features it offers. I use it exclusively as a JSON store which I feel I can easily export at any time if I wanted to switch to another NoSQL DBaaS. A few people here are mentioning how it's crazy to depend on external services f…
> A few people here are mentioning how it's crazy to depend on external services for an app, but as an 'indie' dev, I can't spend time maintaining a secure, high-availability database
Nobody is saying that you shouldn't rely on external services.
What's wrong on the other hand is to depend on a proprietary database offered by a single vendor.
Firebase is a proprietary database, which means you can't go to the competition without having to rewrite your application. It's called vendor lock-in. Plenty of SAAS provide MongoDB as a service and you can install MongoDB on your own machine, so if a SAAS is price gouging you, you can move to the competitor with a cheaper plan.
If you are not using Firebase ACL or Firebase realtime features then you shouldn't even be using Firebase at all. Don't use MongoDB either. Postgres provide JSON types and queries and most Postgres SAAS are much much cheaper than MongoDB SAAS.
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#63I am so surprised why people buy into some SAAS software that does simple things instead of hiring 2 programmers from cheap location (somewhere between India and Poland western border), getting Hetzner VPS or dedicates server (even the second option is cheap, including a few administrator hours) and be done. It is not so hard to predict failure/buy out of some SAAS provider, it happened so many times. I am curious wh…
Still cheaper for a single dev starting a startup to hook up to Firebase/AWS/Azure than hiring 'cheap' devs from Poland.
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#64"They have no phone number to contact, no way to dispute this other than email — which they have ignored us for over a month now without replying to our continued requests. Trapped. Doomed. We have no further options."
I really don't understand why anyone expects anything different from Google these days. Or possibly ever. "Don't be evil" ironically turned out to be a particularly evil marketing ploy.
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#65Is there a large difference between using Firebase Database and another hosted DBaaS, such as MongoDB Atlas? I use Firebase Database but keep it arms length by avoiding any of the proprietary features it offers. I use it exclusively as a JSON store which I feel I can easily export at any time if I wanted to switch to another NoSQL DBaaS. A few people here are mentioning how it's crazy to depend on external services f…
> A few people here are mentioning how it's crazy to depend on external services for an app, but as an 'indie' dev, I can't spend time maintaining a secure, high-availability database Nobody is saying that you shouldn't rely on external services. What's wrong on the other hand is to depend on a proprietary database offered by a single vendor. Firebase is a proprietary database, which means you can't go to the competi…
Exactly. Learn how to use an actual relational database. It's not that hard.
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#66Reminds me of getting Bait-and-Switch'd by Google App Engine in 2011. From 10's of euros to 1000's. > They have no phone number to contact, no way to dispute this other than email — which they have ignored us for over a month now without replying to our continued requests. Trapped. Doomed. We have no further options. Sounds like Google did a great job with Firebase. Definitely gives you that Google-feel of unresponsi…
The easiest way of dealing with Google is to just cancel your credit card... You won't get your money back (unless a CC dispute gets it back). Google are impossible to get any customer service from, which is why I refuse to use any of their non-free offerings (and have limited my use of their free stuff to hangouts and google docs).
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#67Using Firebase or similar is akin to opening a restaurant that serves take-away pizzas from a nearby Pizza Hut, after nicely putting them in a porcelain plate. If Pizza Hut changes the pricing, you either close shop or adapt. Who would open such a restaurant?
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Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#68So, they discovered they were under billing by measuring bandwidth via the server logs instead of at the switch. Then proceeded to not tell a soul they would be making a change that has the potential to greatly increase your bill. Do I have that right?
Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#69Re: A startup’s Firebase bill suddenly increased from $25 to $1750 per month
#70I am so surprised why people buy into some SAAS software that does simple things instead of hiring 2 programmers from cheap location (somewhere between India and Poland western border), getting Hetzner VPS or dedicates server (even the second option is cheap, including a few administrator hours) and be done. It is not so hard to predict failure/buy out of some SAAS provider, it happened so many times. I am curious wh…
Still cheaper for a single dev starting a startup to hook up to Firebase/AWS/Azure than hiring 'cheap' devs from Poland.
> Still cheaper for a single dev starting a startup to hook up to Firebase/AWS/Azure than hiring 'cheap' devs from Poland.
Yes but you gotta be smart here. It's not like Firebase is the only database out there. And once your product grows, and you hit Firebase limits which forces you in the "pay as you go" plan, whatever cheapness you thought you bought into quickly becomes a huge expanse.