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A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by threeseed »

valuearb wrote: post #220

“It’s an obsolete model that doesn’t address the work conditions of the future,” says Louise Mozingo, an urban design professor at UC Berkeley." Everyone should note that Louise Mozingo has criticized the Apple campus from not having large open floor plans where employees can stare at each other across narrow tables and "collaborate" by yelling to one another over their co-workers heads. She simply doesn't get how so…

> She simply doesn't get how software developers work.

It's not just software developers.

A significant percentage of the population are or lean towards being introverted i.e. social interactions do not make them necessarily happier or more productive.

And experts have been saying that being creative requires some periods of interaction and some periods of solitude. Seems like office spaces should reflect that.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by Markoff »

asimpletune wrote: post #81
ensiferum wrote: post #77

All nice and fancy. Probably great for the upper level management. They can take a stroll in the park between golf games. For the grunt workers it's still just another cubicle hell where you crunch away some crappy code or TPS reports.

Honestly, how can you say that? There is absolutely nothing but love put into this building. Jobs spent his last years on earth dedicated to it, to every single last detail, because he wanted a home for apple, a real home. It's easy to be cynical, but I think it's hard and therefore admirable to rise above that tendency when something truly beautiful and genuine comes along. Now I don't blame you for feeling that way…

it's just boring massive circle without zero innovation, i recommend you to look up in Google keywords Zaha Hadid or organic architecture to see some actual cool and beautiful buildings instead of this... circle

people would be probably praising it even if it would be just another boring skyscraper just because it's Apple

well i have news for you, just because it's Apple HQ it doesn't make it really interesting or nice building from architectural standpoint

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Post by valuearb »

megablast wrote: post #218
csomar wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense but I hear this a lot "Why not public transportation?" Well, why not a car if people wanted to have a car? With Tesla and new E.V.s hitting the market, the primary reason (pollution) is gone.

Oh, you know, drivers kill over a million people are year. But you are right, why is that a problem? Driving is the single most dangerous thing most people will do at any time. It is a ridiculous, barbaric thing to do.

730,000 people die in the US every year. Only 35,000 are killed in car accidents. Individually it wouldn't rank in the top ten causes of death.

Auto fatalities per million miles driven have dropped by 95% since the 1920s, 86% since 1950, and over 50% since the 1980s.

If people don't drive, all those million miles of transport will be taken up by Buses, Trains, Bikes, Walking, etc, all of which have their own death rates per million miles. It's unlikely the death rate will decline in any noticeable way even if we banned cars.

And we are on the verge of eliminating the vast majority of accidents, not just self driving cars, but even simpler existing mechanisms such as automatic brakes and lane change monitors will make massive reductions in accident rates as they continue to become more common.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by abakker »

vidanay wrote: post #277
abakker wrote: post #263

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I didn't answer your full question - I didn't charge more based on the client. Just standard, and it took me ~8 hours of work. Turned out to be a great learning experience. (making those puzzle joints caused a revelation: .25" diameter bits are frequently, and irregularly, not .25". Most of mine end up being around .242" Once you compensate for that in CAD, things fit together nicely. )

Try switching from woodworking bits to metal working bits. An end mill will be 0.2500 with probably a minus tolerance of a tenth or two. The wood bits might be undersized to accommodate tearing of the grain and sanding.

Thanks! The issue with metal working bits is # of flutes/flute geometry - the chips need to be too small to get a good finish, or the feed rate needs to be too high.

The "woodworking" bits I use are already pure carbide, high quality bits. my method these days has been to bore a small test hole into a piece of delrin with each new bit, and test that hole with a set of .001" increment pin gauges. Using that number has proven to be good enough for my purposes. Note that this problem is only present where the cutting diameter is nominally the same as the shank diameter. If I buy .5" shank bits with a .25" cutting diameter, they are perfect, but 2x the cost.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by valuearb »

Fricken wrote: post #238
valuearb wrote: post #225

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It's totally rational. Mass transit provides transport from points A to points B, C, and maybe D. Cars provide transportation to anywhere from anywhere. You regard this as irrational because you don't value individual liberty. Could cars be more environmentally sound? Yes and we are on our way to making that happen.

If you conveniently ignore all the negative side effects of cars and sprawl that accomodates them, and start not from first principles but with the clusterfuck we currently inhabit, then I guess over-reliance on cars enhances individual liberty for a privileged few. With less cars you can take the bus, the train, a bike, or you can walk. You can do it whether you're rich or poor, or too old or too young to drive. Wit…

Sprawl is allowing another person the freedom to have a yard. But sure, we can shave a few seconds off your commute by forcing everyone into tiny apartments in this massive country with massive amounts of open space.

I live in a state that appropriately funds it's freeways, so we don't have a cluster fuck. I seldom ever have to drive below 75 on the freeway.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by Markoff »

lallysingh wrote: post #30

When looking at the practicality of this thing, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But it does as a monument to Steve. Then again, I'm not in design or architecture. If it's really significant in that context, it's a shame that it'll be inaccessible to people outside of Apple.

so he will be remembered as guy who wanted boring massive circle like designed in 80s? i am not big fan, but even he doesn't deserve something like this

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by valuearb »

Markoff wrote: post #267
tuna-piano wrote: post #21

Beautiful building. I wonder though - for those who read the article and have worked in both suburban environments and urban ones - would you rather work in the amazing Apple spaceship in the suburbs, or a normal office building in a city-center? For me, I think I'd still prefer a short commute and the density of stuff that comes with being downtown.

beautiful building? meh, it's just extremely boring massive ring designed by some megalomaniac without any imagination, it's shame since Apple products have usually decent design but this is shameful mediocrity this is beautiful building which looks cool and like actual 2017, not that Apple thing which looks like something from 80s http://www.archdaily.com/778933/harbin-opera-house-mad-archi... http://www.architectur…

The Harbin looks incredibly wasteful of space.
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