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The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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I don't understand what you're trying to say. How is morality relevant at all here?

Not the parent but I'll take a stab at this anyway. None of this is actually about moralizing, but very much about signaling that one is part of the cohort of "discerning" consumers (who wouldn't be caught dead , darling, eating a Red Delicious), and not among those great unwashed backwoods jerkwater hordes who eat them because they don't know any better. Hence the religion-like simplicity of the message "red delicio…

Can’t someone just dislike a type of apple without it being a political statement?

I have thought “red delicious” were terrible since grade school, when they used to hand them out as snacks, and I promise you that 6-year-old me was not trying to signal anything.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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I HATED Red Delicious as a kid! Honey Crisp Apples are the best tasting apples I have ever eaten but they cost almost triple the price. Pink Ladies are also phenomenal. My 6 and 10 year old like them better then candy.

Try a pacific rose if you like pink ladies.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent but I'll take a stab at this anyway. None of this is actually about moralizing, but very much about signaling that one is part of the cohort of "discerning" consumers (who wouldn't be caught dead , darling, eating a Red Delicious), and not among those great unwashed backwoods jerkwater hordes who eat them because they don't know any better. Hence the religion-like simplicity of the message "red delicio…

Can’t someone just dislike a type of apple without it being a political statement? I have thought “red delicious” were terrible since grade school, when they used to hand them out as snacks, and I promise you that 6-year-old me was not trying to signal anything.

Sure, you can dislike it. Or like it. That's basically my point - there's no need to attach all the extra ridiculousness to it and make it into a "statement" of any kind.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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We had a bunch of apple trees when I was a kid, including a red delicious tree that was probably planted in the 1920s. Its apples were my favorite, especially when they became crisp and sweet after a light frost. Perhaps store bought red delicious suck but I think this hate is just misplaced elitism from people who've never had one off the tree.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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I HATED Red Delicious as a kid! Honey Crisp Apples are the best tasting apples I have ever eaten but they cost almost triple the price. Pink Ladies are also phenomenal. My 6 and 10 year old like them better then candy.

Unfortunately, though, a large percentage of Pink Ladies offered in stores around here (Germany) come from New Zealand... and that even though apples are among the fruit that grow well in Germany. I like Pink Ladies, especially for the texture, but I prefer to buy fruit that does not have to be shipped half way around the globe.

Why?

If they're shipping Pink Ladies from New Zealand, and there's an efficient market, can't we imply that it's a better allocation of resources to get Pink Ladies from New Zealand? I mean, they're probably cheaper _even though_ they're getting shipped halfway across the world. What the market is saying is that: the highly skilled population of Germany is probably better off doing more advanced things than growing apples.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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I happen to like Red Delicious since they produce a satisfying crunch without being tart (like green apples) or mushy (like gala). I'm surprised this article is using a personal preference to criticize an entire variety and industry.

i've never had a mushy gala.

they get very mealy and unpleasant in texture if they over-ripen even a little bit. gala are often recommended for baking for this reason. the texture degenerates very quickly, moreso than most varieties.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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My son and I have settled on Gala and Fuji as our go-tos are the farmers market. I actually arrived at the same conclusion as this article about "Red Delicious" - it certainly is red and that's the most that can be said of it.

Fujis are very nice but I notice that there is a lot more variance in their tartness level than in some other varieties. they tend to be on the sweet side, but some of them are much more tart than expected.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

#39
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, though, a large percentage of Pink Ladies offered in stores around here (Germany) come from New Zealand... and that even though apples are among the fruit that grow well in Germany. I like Pink Ladies, especially for the texture, but I prefer to buy fruit that does not have to be shipped half way around the globe.

Why? If they're shipping Pink Ladies from New Zealand, and there's an efficient market, can't we imply that it's a better allocation of resources to get Pink Ladies from New Zealand? I mean, they're probably cheaper _even though_ they're getting shipped halfway across the world. What the market is saying is that: the highly skilled population of Germany is probably better off doing more advanced things than growing a…

I think the concern is about externalities like co2.

It could also be a quality concern about doing stuff like picking food super raw and waiting for it to ripen in transit, which seems less than ideal.

But your point about the efficient market is certainly valid FWIW.

Re: The Awful Reign of the Red Delicious (2014)

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post #34

We had a bunch of apple trees when I was a kid, including a red delicious tree that was probably planted in the 1920s. Its apples were my favorite, especially when they became crisp and sweet after a light frost. Perhaps store bought red delicious suck but I think this hate is just misplaced elitism from people who've never had one off the tree.

Having a tree to have fresh apples is a bit more elite than most of us that have to buy them from the store...
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