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A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by valuearb »

jshevek wrote: post #141
dntrkv wrote: post #125

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What is with this cynicism? Bay area tech "drones" are some of the luckiest workers in the world. I work at a pretty average tech company here in the bay and every day I am amazed at how good I have it. I get paid multiple times the country average, I live in a beautiful city, I take at least a month off per year, I work with awesome people on fun projects using cool, new tech. Jesus, what more could you ask for? Mos…

The top comment did not say what you claim they said. Being "no different" is not the same as "still the same in certain respects" I don't think this building is "ridiculously cool." "Out of their way" ? Are you suggesting altruism or generosity?

They don't have cubes. They don't have an open floor plan.

Those single person pod/offices are huge productivity benefits that most tech companies simply won't invest in.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by guyzero »

falcolas wrote: post #176
madengr wrote: post #145

The glass doors are only 4 stories tall? Meh, the doors to the throne room in Dune Messiah were over 200 foot tall.

I'm sure the kids with slingshots and BB guns are thrilled to have 4 story glass targets...

Thankfully Cupertino's children are only sociopathic about getting good marks to get into college.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by csomar »

giobox wrote: post #160
csomar wrote: post #146

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So? Car owners will pay that bill from car taxes, parking tickets, etc... Why does that bother you?

The idea that roads and related infrastructure is paid entirely or even largely from taxes on road users is a huge myth that persists in a large number of western nations. In most of them, car owners merely contribute to the cost of roads via the taxes you mention, the bulk of the monies to pay road related costs still comes from other sources unrelated to roads or cars at all. Last I read on the subject, in the USA…

In that case, I might agree with you. But the parent poster was not complaining about that. You should also be aware that roads are being used for transportation (public or of goods); which practically most people use (though this might mean just direct taxation of these means).

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by gertef »

wklauss wrote: post #164
timc3 wrote: post #19

I am wondering why I find it kind of odd that it doesn't have a childcare center.

It's much harder to estimate the demand of a child care center than that of a gym or a cafeteria. Not every employee will become a parent and those who do so will only have one or two children in the lifetime. On top of that, some would prefer an outside child care service, specially if the position has a lot of traveling involved (can your partner or caregiver bring the kid to campus when you are not there?) Even if…

It's not that hard, (1) as long as the company doesn't promise that all employees get access (just like parking)so demand is always greater than supply, and (2) new children are announced with 6-12 month lead time

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by accountyaccount »

valuearb wrote: post #177
accountyaccount wrote: post #89

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Seems like a bullshit excuse that's using the illusion of empathy (which is some extra infuriating bullshit). I'd much rather the option of on-site daycare and dealing with the fallout of leaving a job myself.

I'd rather not have my kids under the control of my company.

Then don't. Corporate childcare isn't mandatory... just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't incredibly valuable to other working parents.

I've considered employers I wouldn't have otherwise considered because the thought of on-site child care is incredibly appealing.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by gertef »

valuearb wrote: post #184
teniutza wrote: post #69

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I don't work for a big company. Every morning I take my daughter to daycare before going to work. Although not far from where we live (2 km), I still need to drive in the opposite direction. This means an extra ~20 minutes per morning. That's just the trip. Add to it the lack of parking spaces and rapidly decreasing chance of finding one after a certain time point. Not to mention that I need wake up a 3 year old at a…

Why should the company spend millions a year on a perk you can take advantage of that I can't? And let's not assume you can take advantage of it, given there will be a waiting list. Why do people want a return to the "company town" model just to save a few minutes?

Right, companies should have no perks, because none of them are enjoyed by everyone. This includes healthcare and cafeteria.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by valuearb »

ar15saveslives wrote: post #85
dingo_bat wrote: post #76

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I really didn't find any pics of the workspace in the article. If it is not much work, can you link to the pic here?

They hid them in slideshows :-) Behold, in new Apple office, depressive windowless cell is called "a pod": https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1970/wp-content/uploads/20...

Work areas have more than one dimension. Perhaps there are windows in one of the many directions this photo is not showing?

If you see the picture in the slide show, you'll see that pods provide everyone with a private office, with a huge sliding glass door, and plentiful storage options.

The drones at Facebook would feel like they died and went to heaven.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by linkregister »

jseliger wrote: post #181
linkregister wrote: post #153

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I lived in a city that had a revival of its industrial area. There was no parking garage for the new bars and restaurants, so all visitors simply parked in the residents' neighborhoods. Quality of life drastically declined for those residents, and I ended up having to leave due to family members being unable to find parking in under 30 minutes in the evening. Public transit in the city was underfunded so it was only…

There was no parking garage for the new bars and restaurants, so all visitors simply parked in the residents' neighborhoods This is a solved problem: Charge for parking and the shortage goes away. Meter technology is decades old and well understood. https://www.amazon.com/High-Cost-Free-Parking-Updated/dp/193...

When you become dictator, maybe that will be viable.

In the meantime, what sane city council member is going to tell residents they need to pay for parking in front of their own townhouses?

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by valuearb »

ar15saveslives wrote: post #82
stephen_g wrote: post #64

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Why guess? There are pictures in the article... In fact, the whole thing was apparently designed around the workspace concept... I have to presume, but it sounds like you didn't read the article before commenting.

> I have to presume, but it sounds like you didn't read the article before commenting. It sounds like you didn't. https://assets.wired.com/photos/w_1970/wp-content/uploads/20...

Yes, pods have walls and table tops. They can also have huge glass walls that slide open, and storage units so they remain neat. Why don't you post a picture of that, instead of spamming this one?

Or do you promote open work plans in your day job?

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by jt2190 »

Anyone here work at one of Foster's other buildings? (Berlin Reichstag, the Hong Kong airport, and London’s infamous “Gherkin” tower, etc.). How about Steve's Pixar HQ? What's the day to day experience like?
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