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A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by linkregister »

kylec wrote: post #116
tuna-piano wrote: post #21

Beautiful building. I wonder though - for those who read the article and have worked in both suburban environments and urban ones - would you rather work in the amazing Apple spaceship in the suburbs, or a normal office building in a city-center? For me, I think I'd still prefer a short commute and the density of stuff that comes with being downtown.

would you rather work in the amazing Apple spaceship in the suburbs, or a normal office building in a city-center? I would rather work in any building in the suburbs than any building in a city center. I love being able to get in my car and arrive at work in 10 minutes. Very few public transportation systems can beat that. It also means that I can live in an area where I can drive to and park at restaurants, grocery…

Trick question: unless you were already a multi-millionaire you wouldn't be able to drive to the Apple spaceship in under 45 minutes.

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Post by adventured »

justinator wrote: post #130
MattRogish wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was talking with a friend about this, that works at a big SV company that is known for high comp. Why don't they have a child care facility? Surely they can afford it! His response was - paraphrasing - "What happens if someone quits, or is fired? In SV/SF, waits for child care facilities can easily take 6-12 months. If someone is terminated from our company, the last thing we want for them to do is have a crisis ab…

> Why don't they have a child care facility? That decision was made by a man?

That's an obnoxious, sexist statement implying that men don't have at least equal concern as women for the well being & care of their children.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by wklauss »

timc3 wrote: post #19

I am wondering why I find it kind of odd that it doesn't have a childcare center.

It's much harder to estimate the demand of a child care center than that of a gym or a cafeteria. Not every employee will become a parent and those who do so will only have one or two children in the lifetime.

On top of that, some would prefer an outside child care service, specially if the position has a lot of traveling involved (can your partner or caregiver bring the kid to campus when you are not there?) Even if you decide to do it. ¿How many people should you hire? ¿What happens when the employee is fired or quits? (it's hard to find a daycare center in short time), add insurance, etc...

The way most companies solve this is by subsidizing the daycare facility of you're choosing or allowing for remote work some days of the week. It's more efficient.

That being said, not sure what the policy at Apple is right now.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by adventured »

Someone1234 wrote: post #129
Denzel wrote: post #60

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Except it makes more sense to depreciate over the useful life of the building (standard: 50 years) which brings you to a more reasonable ~$8k/year/employee cost of building use.

> standard: 50 years According to this study[0] 50 years is the maximum lifespan of a commercial building, not the standard . Over 50% of demolished steel commercial buildings were under 25 years old. [0] PDF: http://cwc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/DurabilityService_L...

There's zero chance that building doesn't last 50 years, whether it's still being used by Apple 50 years from now or not.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by antisthenes »

chx wrote: post #137
csomar wrote: post #131

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No offense but I hear this a lot "Why not public transportation?" Well, why not a car if people wanted to have a car? With Tesla and new E.V.s hitting the market, the primary reason (pollution) is gone.

Cars take a lot of space though in the form of roads and parking lots.

If space was really that much of an issue, they would be using stacked parking lots like they do in NY.

I assume on the Apple campus most of the parking is multi-level & underground. In that case, what's the issue?

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by mozumder »

Yes, Apple insists that by working in a place where artificial hills are dotted with pines transplanted from Christmas tree farms in the Mojave Desert, its employees will make better products. But didn’t Apple create its marvelous Apple II in a bedroom and its ground­breaking Macintosh in a low-slung office park building? The employees who work at the new campus are leaving behind the buildings that provided sufficient inspiration to invent the iPhone.

This is something I worry about. Some of the most groundbreaking works were created by artists being super poor and living in a hole somewhere while suffering from personal problems. Sure once they become popular and make money they can afford to refine their craft and over-produce, but the original inspiration comes from a grittier, more punk place.

Re: A Look Inside Apple’s New Campus

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Post by kylec »

linkregister wrote: post #161
kylec wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

would you rather work in the amazing Apple spaceship in the suburbs, or a normal office building in a city-center? I would rather work in any building in the suburbs than any building in a city center. I love being able to get in my car and arrive at work in 10 minutes. Very few public transportation systems can beat that. It also means that I can live in an area where I can drive to and park at restaurants, grocery…

Trick question: unless you were already a multi-millionaire you wouldn't be able to drive to the Apple spaceship in under 45 minutes.

This is completely untrue. I am most certainly not a multi-millionare and, according to Google Maps, I can drive from my apartment to Apple Park in 13 minutes. I can also get to eBay in 10 and Netflix in 11.
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