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Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by bzbarsky »

unexistance wrote: post #195
bzbarsky wrote: post #189

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In Firefox 53: Go to Preferences ("Options" on Windows), select the "Content" section, click the "Colors..." button, and change the "Override the colors specified by the page with your selections above" dropdown to "Always". In current nightly: Go to Preferences/Options, select the "General" section, scroll down to the "Colors..." button in the "Fonts & Colors" part, then as above.

exactly but I also changed the below in about:config * browser.display.background_color * browser.display.foreground_color

Note that there is UI for changing them in that "Colors..." section in preferences.

Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by bzbarsky »

bigbugbag wrote: post #210
bzbarsky wrote: post #189

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In Firefox 53: Go to Preferences ("Options" on Windows), select the "Content" section, click the "Colors..." button, and change the "Override the colors specified by the page with your selections above" dropdown to "Always". In current nightly: Go to Preferences/Options, select the "General" section, scroll down to the "Colors..." button in the "Fonts & Colors" part, then as above.

Is there an equivalent option in firefox prior to version 52 ? I'm forever stuck to firefox before version 52 because 52 is the release that dropped support for having sound in the browser with no intent of going back.

The dropdown that's in 53 has been there since Firefox 37.

Before Firefox 37 it was just a "Allow pages to choose their own colors" checkbox (which you could uncheck). _That_ UI goes back to at least Firefox 3.5. Likely earlier (I'm pretty sure it was in 1.0 as well), but I don't have anything older than that on hand at the moment.

On a separate note, I assume your "having sound" thing refers specifically to Linux and even more specifically to Linux systems without PulseAudio, right? Characterizing that as a blanket "dropped support for having sound" is at bit disingenuous.

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Post by itchyouch »

creepydata wrote: post #157
fivestar wrote: post #103

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Hell, I have just over 1/10th and I'm trying to extract myself from the workaday life. What is truly ridiculous is that I can't yet do so, largely due to the high cost of buying health insurance yourself. It's like the whole US is designed around debt slavery and moving the goalposts further and further out. $5-10M is probably the low bar for living a kick-ass non-tied-to-employment lifestyle in the US. Certainly peo…

$5-10 million!?!? Thats steep. What are you going to spend $5-10 million on? I plan on retiring early at $1.25 million. I could do it on less but $1.25M lets me keep the lifestyle I have now, which is awesome. I don't live in a trailer park, I own a big (to me) house and I spent tons on food and booze.

Gotta keep up with inflation.

5M generating 3-5% on super safe assets is 150-250k/yr that's generated. After taxes (~40%), that is 90-150k which is 7.5-12.5k/month to spend.

A typical 2-3k sqft newish home in an upper-income neighborhood (median income around 80-90k) runs 400-600k+, which will yield a $2-3k/mo mortgage and $500-1000/mo in property taxes + 500-1000 in general utilities. So just to own a home in an upper-income neighborhood is 3-5k/month. Even if the house is paid off, one is looking at 1-2k/month in property taxes & utilities.

Decent health insurance can easily run around closer 1-2k/month for a family. Yes there are plans for $100/mo as well, but those pretty much as good as not having insurance.

Also a portion of the proceeds needs to be reinvested back to keep up with inflation. It feels that most things have doubled in cost since I was in highschool back in the late 90s/early 00s.

Sure, it's possible to live on 25k/yr (family of 4-5?) like Mr Money Mustache. It really depends on the lifestyle one would like the maintain.

The point of being financially independent is to be able to do as one pleases, but if the things that one wants to pursue cost a decent chunk of money, then the retirement income needs to accommodate said hobbies.

Travel, transportation (cars, boats), housing can be cheap, but virtually unlimited amounts of money can be spent on those categories alone and those categories tend to be the ones that people generally enjoy splurging on.

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Post by itchyouch »

mostlyskeptical wrote: post #118
fivestar wrote: post #109

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That's because that's basically all you can do with only $1M these days! The US is nothing but a grievous lie--we have allowed a tiny few to extract all the wealth to the tippy tippy top. I can't even believe people work for like $50K in most places anymore, they should be taking up arms at this point.

In most places in the US you can live extremely comfortably, even with a couple of moderately expensive hobbies, on 50k. Get out of the big cities.

That's like 3k/month after taxes. Great for a single person, but seems tight for a family even in a super low cost of living area. I'm imagining spending around 1k/mo for a 3br place + utils, and another ~1k easily burned on groceries, 2 cars + car insurance. 1k remaining to be split amongst family member needs seems very tight.

Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by brndn »

dammitcoetzee wrote: post #22
brndn wrote: post #12

Why doesn't Craigslist have mobile apps?

Craigslist is one of the best pages on the internet. It's functional, it loads fast, it doesn't have a stack built of buzzwords and bullshit. It works on every device everywhere. I mean, what business does a page have being megabytes and megabytes if it's gonna display a couple bytes of text? None. It doesn't matter if it's "technically free" these days, that's just bad design and engineering.

I agree with you, but I still think they could benefit from at least having an app that loads their website. Craigslist is represented in app-stores by unofficial 3rd party apps that aren't very good. Users may have bad experiences with those apps, which Craigslist may want to prevent or control.

Some people might think (incorrectly) that their lack of presence in app stores means the company isn't focused on mobile or that their platform is not intended to be used on mobile.

There are benefits to having a mobile app over just a mobile website, such as mobile notifications, consistent/better authentication, being featured on users' home screens (next to LetGo, OfferUp, etc.) instead of hidden away in a web browser app. I would think that Craigslist would find their users to be more engaged with an app.

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Post by brndn »

rsync wrote: post #92
creepydata wrote: post #53

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Craigslist has the best mobile app out there. It can be found at https://www.craigslist.org

That is the correct answer - provided that your parent was serious. I cling to the hope that your parent was actually joking.

I wasn't joking, but I clarified my question in response to another comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14343964

Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by creepydata »

nunez wrote: post #170
creepydata wrote: post #162

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The kids blow the wealth more often than not and the grandkids spend every last dime of what the kids couldn't. http://time.com/money/3925308/rich-families-lose-wealth/ (That's ignoring the fact that people who grow up 'set for life' tend to be truly terrible human beings)

who cares what happens when you're dead

Well if your goal is to "help out the grandkids in life" you should probably know leaving them your fortune is going to do the opposite.

Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by creepydata »

cjrp wrote: post #206
creepydata wrote: post #188

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No, I flew international first class and international economy. I stand by what I said, it's the difference between being uncomfortable and being slightly less uncomfortable. You're still stuck on a plane.

Which airline, out of interest? I understand that American airlines have less attractive Biz/First offerings than European and Middle-Eastern airlines.

Lufthansa.

Doesnt matter though, no matter what they do they aren't going to take away the fact I'm stuck on a airplane for 15 hours. I'm also the kind of person who prefers to get up and get something rather than be served.

Re: How Craigslist Makes Money

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Post by therealjumbo »

pkamb wrote: post #87
LordKano wrote: post #67

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I don't think you should have been down-voted but I don't think you understand. Craigslist is so popular because of its simplicity. It's quick. It's light. It's easy. It works and it works well. I don't think there are many potential customers out there thinking "You know what the world needs? Craigslist for web 2.0 with AJAX, JSON, HTML5 and Flash elements." If you think I'm misreading the marketplace, please feel f…

Craigslist doesn't work well though. It looks fine. It loads quickly. But the overall usage to complete your goal is terrible compared to a modern app in the same space such as Tinder or AirBnB.

Tinder doesn't even have a desktop site/app so that's not a good example.

I also disagree, I think overall usage to complete your goal is fine, it looks a little old but whatever.

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