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Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

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Post by smacktoward »

uiri wrote: post #17
awinter-py wrote: post #14

Can anyone find the option to add intel AMT to the bios? I can't see it anywhere on the page and I also searched with ctrl+F.

It has an ARM CPU. Intel AMT is an x86(-64) technology. ARM and x86 are two different CPU architectures with incompatible instruction sets. AMT isn't available on an ARM chip.

The comment you are responding to is a joke. It is referring to recently discovered AMT security vulnerabilities in Intel CPUs. The joke is that it is asking how AMT can be added to an ARM CPU, when in reality nobody would actually want to do that.

This has been another episode of the Hacker News Joke Explainer™

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

#32

Post by SomeStupidPoint »

Retric wrote: post #27
retro64xyz wrote: post #3

I am an early adopter of a Pine product. I purchased the Pine64, a case, and some accessories. When I had problems with the product, the folks at Pine64 were completely silent and refused to communicate with me. It is possible that their customer service has improved since I last made a purchase. I will not test it and cannot recommend the Pine products. However, the idea of a $100 computer is tantalizing and I reall…

It sounds like they actually spent significant time helping which IMO is above and beyond on a 100$ product. If you want significant support, don't buy cheapest in it's category things as support is one of the things that must be cut to dramatically reduce prices.

I've gotten reasonable support on $100 2-in-1s, $100 appliances, and It being cheap isn't an excuse to ship a defective product.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

#34

Post by eriknstr »

ah- wrote: post #13

And the pine64 is one of the arm64 boards supported by OpenBSD: https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html

Whoa, that page lists Raspberry Pi 3 as supported also.

Every time I've searched for OpenBSD for Raspberry Pi in the past, all I got was people saying that it would never happen due to the reliance on proprietary blobs.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

#35

Post by SomeStupidPoint »

smacktoward wrote: post #31
uiri wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has an ARM CPU. Intel AMT is an x86(-64) technology. ARM and x86 are two different CPU architectures with incompatible instruction sets. AMT isn't available on an ARM chip.

The comment you are responding to is a joke. It is referring to recently discovered AMT security vulnerabilities in Intel CPUs. The joke is that it is asking how AMT can be added to an ARM CPU, when in reality nobody would actually want to do that. This has been another episode of the Hacker News Joke Explainer™

Tell that to the guys who developed TrustZone technology.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

#37

Post by Retric »

SomeStupidPoint wrote: post #32
Retric wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like they actually spent significant time helping which IMO is above and beyond on a 100$ product. If you want significant support, don't buy cheapest in it's category things as support is one of the things that must be cut to dramatically reduce prices.

I've gotten reasonable support on $100 2-in-1s, $100 appliances, and It being cheap isn't an excuse to ship a defective product.

A 100$ toaster is not a cheap in the way a 100$ laptop is. Basically, if your buying a 1,000$ laptop and they reserve 5% of the price for support that's 50$. If your buying a 100$ laptop don't expect the same 50$ be set aside unless your actually willing to spend 150$ on 100$ of components and 50$ of support.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

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Post by DanWaterworth »

smacktoward wrote: post #31
uiri wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has an ARM CPU. Intel AMT is an x86(-64) technology. ARM and x86 are two different CPU architectures with incompatible instruction sets. AMT isn't available on an ARM chip.

The comment you are responding to is a joke. It is referring to recently discovered AMT security vulnerabilities in Intel CPUs. The joke is that it is asking how AMT can be added to an ARM CPU, when in reality nobody would actually want to do that. This has been another episode of the Hacker News Joke Explainer™

> This has been another episode of the Hacker News Joke Explainer™

Tune in again next time and remember, if you we have to explain you, you just aren't funny.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

#39

Post by eriknstr »

retro64xyz wrote: post #3

I am an early adopter of a Pine product. I purchased the Pine64, a case, and some accessories. When I had problems with the product, the folks at Pine64 were completely silent and refused to communicate with me. It is possible that their customer service has improved since I last made a purchase. I will not test it and cannot recommend the Pine products. However, the idea of a $100 computer is tantalizing and I reall…

I bought a Pine 64 also after someone mentioned it on HN and I failed to look at reviews for it. After it arrived when I was going to get started with it I read about how difficult it was so I didn't bother to even try to boot it, I just put it aside. Someone else ITT did mention that OpenBSD supports the Pine64 so maybe I'll try and boot my Pine64 with that.

Re: Pinebook – A $100 14" ARM laptop

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Post by reikonomusha »

I was an early adopter of the pine64s. I was going to use them for ARM builds at work. I had the most difficult time trying to install a Linux distro that I could trust. Everything came in the form of binary blobs or pre-installed SD cards.

In the end, a farm of 12 of them lay to waste. I hope I can find a reliable way to install an OS with some semblance of trustworthiness. But the odds don't seem so good after a year of their existence.

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