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Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by Grustaf »

timanglade wrote: post #44
asadlionpk wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When using React Native (and also storing your network in JS) you can choose to push updates and fixes to JS part of your code without going through store again. Check: http://microsoft.github.io/code-push/

Yup that's basically it. The hack was just in getting Tensorflow to accept/load its neural network definition from the JS bundle (what CodePush distributes for you) rather than from the main Cocoa bundle.

Really cool stuff! I didn't even realise you've switched jobs, but that explains why I didn't see you when we popped in at Townsend the other day! Keep up the good work.

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Post by alexcnwy »

timanglade wrote: post #42
alexcnwy wrote: post #36

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AWESOME! Can you please elaborate a bit more on the model architecture and what you tried with respect to transfer learning? Did you use an imagenet architecture e.g. VGG and retrain from scratch or a custom architecture? Did you try chop off the last 1/2/3 layers of a prerrained mode and fine-tune? Bonus points: 1. How much better were your results trained from scratch vs fine-tuned? 2. How long did it take to train…

Hey so I actually tried Vgg, Inception and SqueezeNet, out of the box, chopped and trained from scratch (SqueezeNet only for the latter due to resource constraints). We ended up with a custom architecture trained from scratch due to runtime constraints more so than accuracy reasons (the inference runs on phones, so we have to be efficient with CPU + memory), but that model also ended up being the most accurate model…

great, thanks for your reply and looking forward to that blogpost!

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by joncrocks »

timanglade wrote: post #44
asadlionpk wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When using React Native (and also storing your network in JS) you can choose to push updates and fixes to JS part of your code without going through store again. Check: http://microsoft.github.io/code-push/

Yup that's basically it. The hack was just in getting Tensorflow to accept/load its neural network definition from the JS bundle (what CodePush distributes for you) rather than from the main Cocoa bundle.

Just as a note, people/developers have had messages from Apple telling them that they need to remove code which allows them to update their app outside of the app update/review process.

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13817557 for some more detail/discussion.

[edit: Apart from in Apple-approved manners]

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by netsharc »

avaer wrote: post #25

Hm, is this an officially licensed HBO marketing stunt? Or does SeeFood Technologies Inc. actually exist as a corporation? If not, I'm curious what the legal ramifications are of doing business as a corporation that does not exist.

Most movies say they are distributed/produced by a corporation that is specific to the movie (probably for Hollywood Accounting), so it's probably really easy for Hollywood to do this.

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by [deleted] »

jrimbault wrote: post #43
timanglade wrote: post #28

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It was random, I was already working on the show as what Hollywood calls a (technical) “consultant”: advising on storylines, dialogue, background assets, etc. When this idea popped up, someone suggested we build the app for real. We took a try and ended up building the entire thing in-house with the crew, as opposed to hiring an external agency to do it for us.

If I understood correctly by reading the comments, this was built for a show ? What show ? EDIT: ah, it's in your profile ;)

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Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

joncrocks wrote: post #53
timanglade wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup that's basically it. The hack was just in getting Tensorflow to accept/load its neural network definition from the JS bundle (what CodePush distributes for you) rather than from the main Cocoa bundle.

Just as a note, people/developers have had messages from Apple telling them that they need to remove code which allows them to update their app outside of the app update/review process. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13817557 for some more detail/discussion. [edit: Apart from in Apple-approved manners]

Well, that's not gonna fly with the "code is data, data is code" crowd ...

If the newspaper apps get to load fresh front page images, why should a poor neural net be discriminated in its quest for fresh coefficients?

(Raw oppression and injustice there, get yer indignation reservoir topped up.)

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by davb »

I always find it strange when apps like this are made unavailable in certain countries (in this case, the UK).

Video, I understand. From a consumer perspective it's crappy, but I do understand that licensing agreements for video are generally geographically restricted. But an app that goes along with a TV show? I can't see Sky (the UK network broadcasting Silicon Valley and most other HBO shows right now) distributing Not Hotdog.

It would be fun to play with it while the novelty is still fresh.

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by Kiro »

joncrocks wrote: post #53
timanglade wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup that's basically it. The hack was just in getting Tensorflow to accept/load its neural network definition from the JS bundle (what CodePush distributes for you) rather than from the main Cocoa bundle.

Just as a note, people/developers have had messages from Apple telling them that they need to remove code which allows them to update their app outside of the app update/review process. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13817557 for some more detail/discussion. [edit: Apart from in Apple-approved manners]

https://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/information/iOS_Pro...

> 3.3.2 […] The only exception to the foregoing is scripts and code downloaded and run by Apple’s built-in WebKit framework or JavascriptCore […]

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by lhr0909 »

davb wrote: post #57

I always find it strange when apps like this are made unavailable in certain countries (in this case, the UK). Video, I understand. From a consumer perspective it's crappy, but I do understand that licensing agreements for video are generally geographically restricted. But an app that goes along with a TV show? I can't see Sky (the UK network broadcasting Silicon Valley and most other HBO shows right now) distributin…

I think they just didn't publish to other regions. Give it some time and I believe they will cover more than just US App Store ;)

Re: Not Hotdog App

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Post by throwaway29292 »

timanglade wrote: post #23
elmigranto wrote: post #5

US only, welcome to the "global system of interconnected computer networks". Hope Richard's P2P-internet will work better :)

Yup sorry about that, the app is available only in the US (& Canada) due to some legal restrictions we couldn't avoid. FWIW I also worked about on Richard's New Internet concept for this season so I definitely hear ya ;)

Can we expect a similar POC for this P2P-based New Internet that you have scoped up? Basically, how feasible are the concepts explained by Richard?
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