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I wonder - is there an English class out there that focuses on "rewriting, rephrasing, riffing, and appropriation as real tools of the writer’s trade"?
"If you copy from one person it's plagiarism; if you copy from many it's research."
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here is a modest proposal. Take some examples of varying severity. In front of the class say, I have identified many examples of plagairism on the last assignment. Let me show you some... Then say, "I have identified more than X cases. If you think you may have been one of them, let me know by email, and I'll let you redo the paper and ignore your first submission. Anyone that I have identified as a plaigairist who d…
Part of the problem is the time spent on administration (marking them, tracking them, etc) for all the redone papers. Definitely the worst part of teaching.
But the hope is that if you do it right, you only have to do it once.
Turnitin is used by my professors and each and every time my papers would come up as 100% plagiarised, if they then attempted to Google it they would come across my website where I had posted the paper. After the first time of being accused of plagiarism and me pointing out that the license attached to my work did not allow Turnitin to use it for commercial purposes they started checking by hand, never heard about it again.
I am getting really sick of the moral relativism building up around cheating and grades. It's a fucking nightmare. Schools should just flunk out the 40% or 50% who do this shit for a couple years, and people will get straight.
It completely devalues the work of people who actually do the work. Welcome to the mediocratization of civilization.
what a bunch of fucking crap. Plagiarism is theft, pure and simple. You know when you're doing it, and it means you suck. I am getting really sick of the moral relativism building up around cheating and grades. It's a fucking nightmare. Schools should just flunk out the 40% or 50% who do this shit for a couple years, and people will get straight. It completely devalues the work of people who actually do the work. Wel…
Of course students need to be thought that plagiarism is not ok, again the question is how to teach them best. The threat of big punishment is not necessarily an effective mean towards reducing "crime". The article also hints at the fact that the cause of the plagiarism is not so much malice, as difficult surcomstances, and a lack of knowledge/skill in students (though the main example around which the article centers, may not give a strong argument for this)
re: the plagiarism in king's thesis, it might be interesting to note that this often happens among those who are gifted with speech-making. lincoln echoes so clearly the ideas of pericles in thucydides' retelling of it -- perhaps the most famous speech in america, but also the most famous speech in athens. nor in his lifetime did he ever offer the connection as a basis. even obama a couple of months ago was making th…
what a bunch of fucking crap. Plagiarism is theft, pure and simple. You know when you're doing it, and it means you suck. I am getting really sick of the moral relativism building up around cheating and grades. It's a fucking nightmare. Schools should just flunk out the 40% or 50% who do this shit for a couple years, and people will get straight. It completely devalues the work of people who actually do the work. Wel…
Well, it's helpful to keep in mind the main goal here, which is providing young people with an education (and providing society with educated young people), not having the students produce brilliant original work (it's just a school assignment, after all). Being a little more pragmatic, rather than flunking half the students for a prolonged period, probably gets you further. Of course students need to be thought that…
Meanwhile, we are losing ground every year in the worldwide competition to produce an educated workforce. You can't just assume every asscrack should get a degree regardless of talent or even the willingness to try, just a little.
I still say the situation is pathetic, and we are right on track to become another deposed colonial power like France or Britain.
re: the plagiarism in king's thesis, it might be interesting to note that this often happens among those who are gifted with speech-making. lincoln echoes so clearly the ideas of pericles in thucydides' retelling of it -- perhaps the most famous speech in america, but also the most famous speech in athens. nor in his lifetime did he ever offer the connection as a basis. even obama a couple of months ago was making th…
Yes, but King's _thesis_ was not a speech, rather a paper of many pages on Paul Tillich. (The religion departments will tell you that Tillich was influenced by Heidegger; the philosophy departments will tell you that Tillich copied great quantities with trivial alterations.)
On the other hand, Heidegger is probably considered to be a scholar. And he plagiarized from Husserl like it was his business. So I guess in the long run, truth crushed to earth will rise again. It's best to be honest as much as possible. Always comes out in the end...