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Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by aibottle »

velodrome wrote: post #6
aub3bhat wrote: post #2

I think Google just made job of some sales manager at AWS Rekognition way easier.

From the FAQ: Q: Why is Google Cloud Platform no longer supporting Cloud Prediction API? A: As we've expanded our Cloud Machine Learning services, many of the use-cases supported by Cloud Prediction API can be better served by Cloud Machine Learning Engine.

Doesn't matter. To general masses it just looks (and well you will have to change code) like they shut down another thing after short time people relied on. Bad move Google. Just stop offering it and keep in running in quiet for people who have it next time.

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by resoluteteeth »

vgt wrote: post #5

Before folks start comparing this to Reader or point to the general "Google shuts things down" narrative, Prediction API has been superset by the array of ML APIs and Google Cloud ML, found at [0]. [0] https://cloud.google.com/products/machine-learning/ (work at G)

It still might not be a great idea for Google to routinely shut down APIs in favor of other APIs if they want people to actually rely on its cloud services. It doesn't look like Google is interested in trying to make the migration particularly easy either:

> Q: What will happen with my existing models?

> A: You must recreate your existing Prediction API models using Cloud Machine Learning Engine. To learn more, please read our documentation about creating models on Cloud Machine Learning Engine.

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by ktamura »

Now this is going to be a moneymaker, this is a sensible business move.

People misunderstand Google: they offer things for free because it lets them collect data (search, gmail, etc.) or it drives competition out (1TB free for BigQuery, for example).

For everything else, they either shut them down or charge money =)

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by yeukhon »

soccerdave wrote: post #4

One thing that I find so amazing about AWS (Amazon Web Services) is that I'm not aware of them ever EOLing one of their apis (I could be wrong). We still have a bunch of code that still uses SimpleDB and even though they haven't promoted SDB for a while, they haven't EOLed it.

More impressively they also maintain older instance types such as m1 they rarely pull them off the shelf completely.

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by ben_jones »

resoluteteeth wrote: post #12
vgt wrote: post #5

Before folks start comparing this to Reader or point to the general "Google shuts things down" narrative, Prediction API has been superset by the array of ML APIs and Google Cloud ML, found at [0]. [0] https://cloud.google.com/products/machine-learning/ (work at G)

It still might not be a great idea for Google to routinely shut down APIs in favor of other APIs if they want people to actually rely on its cloud services. It doesn't look like Google is interested in trying to make the migration particularly easy either: > Q: What will happen with my existing models? > A: You must recreate your existing Prediction API models using Cloud Machine Learning Engine. To learn more, pleas…

If I had built a commercial product on that API how much money would this have cost me to move to the API. Also would the new API allow me to provide a better service to my customers or would it just be a pointless upkeep task.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

ktamura wrote: post #13

Now this is going to be a moneymaker, this is a sensible business move. People misunderstand Google: they offer things for free because it lets them collect data (search, gmail, etc.) or it drives competition out (1TB free for BigQuery, for example). For everything else, they either shut them down or charge money =)

The Predictions API costs money. The replacement also costs money. What are you trying to say?

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by decwakeboarder »

yeukhon wrote: post #14
soccerdave wrote: post #4

One thing that I find so amazing about AWS (Amazon Web Services) is that I'm not aware of them ever EOLing one of their apis (I could be wrong). We still have a bunch of code that still uses SimpleDB and even though they haven't promoted SDB for a while, they haven't EOLed it.

More impressively they also maintain older instance types such as m1 they rarely pull them off the shelf completely.

ec2 is ~easy though, they're just smaller VMs on newer hosts.

I'm amazed that things like SimpleDB are still around and supported even though only a handful of engineers in my ~200 person org have heard of it.

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Post by jamroom »

soccerdave wrote: post #4

One thing that I find so amazing about AWS (Amazon Web Services) is that I'm not aware of them ever EOLing one of their apis (I could be wrong). We still have a bunch of code that still uses SimpleDB and even though they haven't promoted SDB for a while, they haven't EOLed it.

I was a big fan of SimpleDB - I feel like if they would have just given it some love (i.e. feature updates and moving it to all SSD) it would have been a really friendly, scaleable "almost SQL" database. I found it way more flexible than DynamoDB for most data models - maybe I am the only one but I think they missed the boat with SimpleDB, and now it's just been relegated to the forgotten side of AWS.

Re: Google Cloud Prediction API End of Life

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Post by hackunomatter »

resoluteteeth wrote: post #12
vgt wrote: post #5

Before folks start comparing this to Reader or point to the general "Google shuts things down" narrative, Prediction API has been superset by the array of ML APIs and Google Cloud ML, found at [0]. [0] https://cloud.google.com/products/machine-learning/ (work at G)

It still might not be a great idea for Google to routinely shut down APIs in favor of other APIs if they want people to actually rely on its cloud services. It doesn't look like Google is interested in trying to make the migration particularly easy either: > Q: What will happen with my existing models? > A: You must recreate your existing Prediction API models using Cloud Machine Learning Engine. To learn more, pleas…

They _are_ giving a 1 year notice.
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