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I break out in cold sweat when I think about routing a 4094 pin socket. How does anyone layout a motherboard for this in a reasonable time frame?
Presumably there must be a lot of computer assistance?
AMD was sooo close to having a perfect 4096 socket. SO CLOSE! But, alas, it was not meant to be.
Missing corner pins means you won't accidentally insert it the wrong way.
Oh and before anyone goes off trying this, you do need to swap two pins - you can buy a conductive sticker online to make it easy. I just upgraded to i7 6 months ago - you'd be surprised how well a Xeon x5470 (4 cores @ 3.33 GHz, 12MB cache) can stave off the need to upgrade. I'm not a gamer, though.
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Mostly agree, but AMD's TDP estimates are slightly optimistic and in reality Ryzen's power usage is much closer to its Intel counterparts.
Do you have a source for that?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/03/amd-ryzen-review/
> Indeed, Ryzen's 95W TDP looks impressive compared to the 140W TDP of Intel's 6900K, a similar 8C/16T processor based on the Broadwell-E architecture. But in practice, Ryzen pulls just as much wattage from the wall as the 6900K, in some cases slightly more. Considering just how power-hungry Bulldozer was, that remains a significant achievement, even if it means that overclocking headroom isn't as high as some might have hoped.
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Do you have a source for that?
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-R... https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-7-170... http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8072/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-cpu-... http://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700-... (bear in mind the 5820K/6800K/6850K are 6C, the 5960X/6900K are 8C, and the 6950X is 10C) Essentially AMD is rating their TDP under a very light load - like a singl…
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Nope. 6 core 12 thread CPUs came to the mainstream a while ago, AMD brought them. The Ryzen 5 1400 is $160. Intel is playing catchup.
Ever heard of the i7 5820k? It was released Q3'14. 6 cores. 12 threads. i7 name. Around $400. [1] AMD's great revolution was getting the TDP on that core count below 100W, and getting them onto a consumer chipset/socket instead of the enthusiast/server platform. That's it. We keep saying they forced some revolution in price/performance that Intel has had to respond to. Its 80% hype, 20% truth. Intel was complacent on…
Either way, I'm happily using a newly built R7-1700 in a Node 202 mini-ITX case with a Geforce 1060 Founders Edition. It's very quiet and having 8 cores and 16 threads is far more useful than I assumed it would be. It's one of those things that you didn't know you needed until you have it. I use it for so much stuff, and it handles it all with ease.
If nothing else, the 16 threads get a workout daily as my Steam Link is set to do CPU encoding and that uses 8 threads. Beautiful image quality on the TV as a result when the fam is doing some gaming. I'm in love with this system, very happy with Ryzen. Thanks to AMD! :)
I would have put two more pins and made it an integer power of two. And it would have looked nice on the bottom! (64 x 64)
Who would they be marketing such a thing to? 8-core Ryzen seems like enough for most people and any more cores will probably have to be down-clocked for thermal reasons. I thought for the high end they'd go to something like the EHP concept from a couple years ago - put a CPU, GPU, and HBM2 all on a single substrate and market that thing. Call it BraZen because it would be. Give me that in the case from their project…
("preview" rendering is done with GPU acceleration - but final encodes are still done on CPU for quality reasons)
Small-business servers, databases, that kind of stuff too.
We'll see where they go with this - but I would caution enthusiasts to tamp down their expectations a little bit because this is not necessarily going to be an ideal product for gaming. I would not be surprised to see lower clocks to keep TDP under control, and some fairly high price tags to go along with these chips.
I'm imagining this as being more of a competitor to the high-end Xeons, with 3.5 GHz boost clocks and 3 GHz base clocks and a $2000 price tag. It would still be a screaming great deal at that price.
In comparison Intel wants $1700+ for most of the high-core-count Xeons, and you're getting fewer cores and lower clocks.
Who would they be marketing such a thing to? 8-core Ryzen seems like enough for most people and any more cores will probably have to be down-clocked for thermal reasons. I thought for the high end they'd go to something like the EHP concept from a couple years ago - put a CPU, GPU, and HBM2 all on a single substrate and market that thing. Call it BraZen because it would be. Give me that in the case from their project…
Workstation users. CAD, raytracing, and video editing people need as much CPU horsepower as they can get, and quad-channel RAM is pretty nice too. ("preview" rendering is done with GPU acceleration - but final encodes are still done on CPU for quality reasons) Small-business servers, databases, that kind of stuff too. We'll see where they go with this - but I would caution enthusiasts to tamp down their expectations…
Can't wait! Postponed my Ryzen purchase as rumors started to surface about June launch of 16c version - this could allow running 4x GTX 1080 for ML and provide significant boost for movie rendering.