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NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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How long was this in the making and also it must have been very beneficial that last weeks cyber attacks occurred?!

Well, around Jan 31st according to [1], more interesting details are listed in a presentation made for SXSW [2]

[1] https://nhsbuntu.org/nhsbuntu/2017/01/31/initial-post/ [2] https://nhsbuntu.org/nhsbuntu/2017/04/26/sxsw-show-and-tell/

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #9

I do think running hospitals on Linux is a good idea. However just sticking a skin over $YOUR_FAVORITE_DISTRO may not quite work. Hospitals have to work with proprietary devices -- for example, retinal scanners etc, many of which only have Windows drivers. Also, while updating individual Linux systems is easy, patching Linux at scale across the thousands of desktops in the NHS needs a proper, thought-out patching str…

You know, this kind of reminds me of that seen from Goodfellas where Ray Liotota's character is explaining about protection rackets. The quote goes something like "Having a bad day, f k you pay me. Your loved one is sick, f k you pay me. Business going badly, f k you pay me." And that's exactly how I feel about all of these proprietary device providers that have all these massive contract with the NHS. It really shou…

What do you do about legacy software? Porting all the crap they're currently using to a new operating system isn't free.

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, this kind of reminds me of that seen from Goodfellas where Ray Liotota's character is explaining about protection rackets. The quote goes something like "Having a bad day, f k you pay me. Your loved one is sick, f k you pay me. Business going badly, f k you pay me." And that's exactly how I feel about all of these proprietary device providers that have all these massive contract with the NHS. It really shou…

What do you do about legacy software? Porting all the crap they're currently using to a new operating system isn't free.

Yeah, and I mean this without a drop of sarcasm or joking. That's where being one of the richest countries on earth comes in. We should just pay up.

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #12

A quick whois lookup suggests the domain name was registered on April 26. This is after we knew about EternalBlue and DoublePulsar, but suspiciously before the May 12th onslaught of WannaCry at the NHS. Also, the domain status is "serverTransferProhibited" ( https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited ). Very interesting.

I believe some registrars default to that value after you buy a domain, presumably to make it harder to transfer it elsewhere. I've run into this with an old domain name with Namecheap, not sure how widespread the practice is.

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NSH simply states that Linux drivers will be provided and supported by the Vendor or no sale. This is not hard.

But what about the billions of pounds worth of existing equipment?

If it works with XP, chances are it will work with Wine or VirtualBox. Where there is a will, there is a way.

But it would mean giving a huge F* YOU to established networks of parasi- er, vendors specialised in public sector tenders - Microsoft being the king of them all.

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #23

What is the NHS? Seriously, what is the NHS? Nothing defines the NHS, including the about page.

National Health Service (how most people receive healthcare in the UK). I guess they're context blind because of the recent WanaCrypt infection they're on the minds of the target audience of this joke? buisiness?

They're right to expect the target audience to know what NHS is. NHS isn't any less known than e.g. Obamacare, after all.

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #9

I do think running hospitals on Linux is a good idea. However just sticking a skin over $YOUR_FAVORITE_DISTRO may not quite work. Hospitals have to work with proprietary devices -- for example, retinal scanners etc, many of which only have Windows drivers. Also, while updating individual Linux systems is easy, patching Linux at scale across the thousands of desktops in the NHS needs a proper, thought-out patching str…

exactly. this video is nerd thinking 101: here's a great solution to a problem of our own devising. Look, we satisfy all the specifications!

Re: NHSbuntu – an OS for the NHS [video]

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but it's a long- vs. short-term cash problem. The new system would cost a lot in the first few years, but less on the long term as MS licenses won't have to be paid.

NHS would need to pay someone for Linux desktop support. It's normally as expensive as windows.

I do not know how people can entertain this myth that linux support is as expensive as windows. The stability of linux applications is incredible compared with the brutal changes of windows (xp -> vista/7 -> 8 -> 10). Remote administration is far more easier and deployment on many machines is trivial. Machines rot is a lot slower, reducing the cost of machine replacement.

IMHO, the main cost is replacing the old window support guys by linux support guys because people a rarely competent in both and erasing the windows way of thinking is very difficult. The new team has to learn the specific needs and manner of NHS. Once they have the same experience as the previous team, the cost should melt.

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