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Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#81

Honest question: why there is no reverse type bidding system for picking a ride? Let me tell you when im going and where to, where i am and what time i need to be there. Then you have x amount of hours/minutes to bid. The lowest bid gives me ride, unless i want to click few more checkboxes like [x] verified rider [x] minimum 4.5 star rider, etc.

People prefer the "click button, get transit" UX for its simplicity.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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I wish Lyft didn't have tips, it's the one thing keeping me from rooting for them to win.

You can just not pay tips. What's your problem?

Tipping culture has historically trended towards an expectation of ever higher and more commonplace tips to not look like an asshole.

Tipping culture also introduces uncertainty into pricing, and means that nicer people pay more and jerks get to pay less, for the same service.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#83

I feel like Lyft is the underdog coming back to strike the killer blow to Uber... The year Uber has had I wouldn't be surprised to see them disappear altogether by 2018/2019. Lyft seems to be doing things a lot better, but helps that their CEO isn't out starting fires instead of putting them out.

Lyft - Uber might be a Facebook - MySpace story.

MySpace in that story might have not had $14.8b raised in capital.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just not pay tips. What's your problem?

Wouldn't the drivers give you a low rating then?

The driver can't see if you gave them a tip or not when they are rating you. Also it is not clear that the rider rating really matters too much.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#85
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If Alphabet really wants to mess with Uber, why don't they just buy Lyft and offer lower ride pricing/higher driver pay for as long as it takes to put Uber out of business?

That's going to take a lot of dollars..

That would be a straight up anti-trust violation.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#86

Here's the thing. The end game is that Uber, Lyft and taxi drivers are out of a job as chauffeur. However, the self-driving cars remain a capital expense that someone has to finance. I couldn't Google up numbers easily, but it looks like the number of ride-hailed vehicles is in the multiple millions in the US. 1,000,000 autonomous cars at $50,000 each is a $50 Billion-per-million capital expense. I'd guess that the c…

If the math works, the capital will flow. Even if the math doesn't work, the capital might still flow.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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I wish Lyft didn't have tips, it's the one thing keeping me from rooting for them to win.

It's super easy not to tip with Lyft though. I almost never do, unless the driver was especially good (provided good conversation, recommendations, etc).

Yeah then you get into situations where they're going all out trying to get you to tip. Offering stuff, not shutting up, etc.

I used to prefer Lyft due to the silly SV smugness of Uber, but outside the US I depend on Uber and have come to prefer it.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point, some clients would be offended just for ordering an Uber for them, black car or not.

Huh? Why?

If you are in London and you have got to get that famous child prodigy to the film studio with chaperone and teacher then you will be ordering them an Addison Lee private hire vehicle or better. A regular cab or some unlicenced 'Uber' gig-economy 'cab' isn't going to cut it.

I expect that other parts of the world are the same.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

#90
What do you see as the build vs buy preference here? Are you better off being Uber and investing billions in self-driving technology (assuming an ideal world with no lawsuits or misconduct), vs Lyft partnering for the same features? Frankly, I don't see the advantage of a software and logistics company going off on a robotics and AI track. Self-driving will take decades but eventually will become commodity technology.
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