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Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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I wish Lyft didn't have tips, it's the one thing keeping me from rooting for them to win.

It's super easy not to tip with Lyft though. I almost never do, unless the driver was especially good (provided good conversation, recommendations, etc).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lyft barely exists outside of the US. Uber is still on top if you take a global view.

Lyft have a deal with Grab here in Southeast Asia. As I understand I can use Grab to book Lyfts in areas where Lyft operates and Grab doesn't (and vice versa).

Not (always) vice versa. In Ho Chi Minh, where Grab operates, I was not able to book using Lyft and had to install/setup Grab.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lyft - Uber might be a Facebook - MySpace story.

Actually, it's on a smaller scale but I was thinking a "Digg - Reddit" analogy was more appropriate. Reddit was much smaller than Digg for years: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2005-06-01%202... . Reddit was definitely "the little engine that could" for about 6 years, but it was really in 2010 when Digg imploded with the self-inflicted wounds of Digg v4 when Reddit really took off. In other words, MySp…

I mentioned the Digg vs Reddit analogy in relation to Uber/Lyft about a month ago...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14054803

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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When I use lyft now, I'm coming across drivers that only drive for lyft. The tide has definitely shifted against Uber. I'm not really sure there's a way back at this point. The one advantage Uber had was network effect, but in my experience that has diminished. Lyfts come just as fast as Ubers now because they have enough drivers on the road to support the response time. I'll never go back to Uber.

My friend was driving for Uber, but now exclusively drives for Lyft here in the Mid-Atlantic region. Lyft is giving those great incentives that Uber use to and he is making the same decent to good money he used to with Uber, but driving less.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lyft - Uber might be a Facebook - MySpace story.

That's an interesting way to put it. Facebook seemed destined to overtake MySpace as it provided useful data connections (college courses/networks) and a uniform design that MySpace did not have. Lyft has pretty much been trying to be a drop-in replacement for Uber (to be fair, Uber nicked a few ideas from Lyft), with no projects like automation or even Uber's attempts at being a delivery service. If Lyft ends up win…

I wonder why MySpace couldn't copy some of these features from FB.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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If Alphabet really wants to mess with Uber, why don't they just buy Lyft and offer lower ride pricing/higher driver pay for as long as it takes to put Uber out of business?

ridesharing companies come with a lot of potential legal issues and and acquiring company would be exposed to a lot of risk, ambiguity in employee/contractor designation being top of mind. I find a large scale acquisition in this space unlikely.

Re: Lyft and Waymo Reach Deal to Collaborate on Self-Driving Cars

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Here's the thing. The end game is that Uber, Lyft and taxi drivers are out of a job as chauffeur.

However, the self-driving cars remain a capital expense that someone has to finance. I couldn't Google up numbers easily, but it looks like the number of ride-hailed vehicles is in the multiple millions in the US. 1,000,000 autonomous cars at $50,000 each is a $50 Billion-per-million capital expense. I'd guess that the capital is out there, but would it be that raising and deploying that much capital takes as long as developing the autonomous technology? Globally, why wouldn't this be a $1 Trillion spend? Can Uber and Lyft pull that off?

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