Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was going to say - obviously the author of this post hasn't looked for Minecraft mods, because there the problem is far worse.
is it? 99% of the mods nowadays can be downloaded from Curse [1] without any ads and for easy mod management you can even install their launcher those that can't, can be usually found on this site with their official download site linked [2] [1] https://minecraft.curseforge.com/ [2] https://bot.notenoughmods.com/
Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
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Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#82A close friend used IE to get Google Chrome. They clicked the first result and luckily I was able to stop them before starting the install on some crapware.
So I asked them to be careful to ensure the download site is correct and left them to it.
I came back to find they had downloaded some other crapware.
I checked the search results. The ENTIRE first one and a half page of results were advertisements for versions of crapware which may or may not have been Chromium or Chrome lookalikes with lots of malware.
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could've at least visited the website. They are NOT clearly labeled as ads. https://www.getpaint.net/index.html
wcummings might mean the tiny grey-and-blue icons in the top right of each unit. If so, I disagree. Those icons are not visible enough, and are hard for many users to click without accidentally clicking the ad instead.
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#84Everyone seems to give Google the benefit of the doubt here. Is it possible they aren't doing anything because they are making lots of money from this ethical grey area? The incentives seem perfectly aligned... the advertiser doubtlessly doesn't care about whether it's a scrupulous ad or not. Paint.NET authors make money, and Google makes money.
Heck, Google likes to brag about how Chromebooks don't get viruses. Distributing viruses for Windows PCs only helps their bottom line. (You'll also notice that Windows support-related search queries have malicious ads, and no ads display at all for Chromebook or Google support-related search queries.)
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#85I'm curious why these ads are even allowed to get through the network in the first place. Is there just NO content reviewing taking place? That's seems negligent on Google's part. There is no reason for an ad like that to exist on any webpage, period. It should have been blocked at the source. Where is the 3-strikes policy in the ad space? Google is so eager to punish its Youtube streamers for running questionably of…
1. The misleading download button Google ad.
2. After clicking the ad they ask the user to install their extension from the Google Chrome Web Store [1].
3. After installation, the extension replaces new tab page with their own which includes a "custom" search engine "Enhanced by Google" [2].
4. PROFIT!!!? They make money when the user clicks a Google ad in their search results on that new tab page.
I'm not sure how it's worth it for Google because with the extension installed they are sharing part of their search results revenue with the owner of the extension compared to the users directly using the Google search when there is no extension to "hijack" it.
From the users perspective: Sure, it's not a ransomware level malware but it's still a PUP and the users are annoyed that they were "tricked" into installing it and their new tab page has been changed, as it can be seen in almost all of the reviews for their chrome extension, and almost all the first page google result for "EasyPDFCombine" is about how to remove this "virus".
It's the same decade old trick from the same company: Mindspark aka MyWebSearch aka Ask Toolbar and many more names.
[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/easypdfcombine/kpo...
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#86Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#87And as unpopular as the idea is with geeks, I think this illustrates the need for a "walled gardened" for the majority of users where each app is sandboxxed. Something like this couldn't happen on iOS, ChromeOS or Windows 10s. Most non developers would be served perfectly fine with a locked down OS.
What it illustrates the need for is understanding why you're receiving things (which is a pretty vital outside of software, too). If you pay for your product then you won't see phishing on the download page. If it's a subscription fee, then they're going to make it difficult to abandon or switch away from. And if it's "free", then who knows what's going on - maybe the product will wantonly encourage spending money (a…
You can even search for Windows drivers and instead of getting drivers from the manufacturer, you end up with malware from a third party site.
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't believe Google couldn't categoricatically add context to these type of ads if they really cared. Google knows the ad link. Google can crawl the target page / file. If it's an installer, Google can run it in a VM and note what ends up being installed. If you can't pull a clear "this is crapware" signal out of that, then their ML is a lot less advanced than it seems. And if they can, then just automatically put…
They would care if thousands of organisations pulled their advertising over it.
Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#89Re: Google and Paint.NET need to stop misleading users (2013)
#90I don't think 2013 article is still relevant today.
It's still relevant. I took this screenshot a few seconds ago: https://i.imgur.com/6LoQ3TW.png
So it is still relevant. But how these ads are able to pass through AdWords review.