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The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by archagon »

freshhawk wrote: post #21

I would love to have this restarted but as a cooperative and with only the people who refused or left Latitude because of the power/information asymmetry. Or those types of people. They saw the problem and acted even when being a member must have been a lot of fun and it must have been painful to be left out. The mystery and social connections from something like this are great, the number of people obviously using i…

I wish there were more (co-ed) fraternal organizations without the cult aspects. You know — a nice house, a pretty flag, a space to hang out and talk about interesting things. There's a certain social niche that just doesn't get filled by jobs or single-purpose meetups. Reading about this startup feels me with a deep sort of longing, despite knowing that it's a corporate construct.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by subpixel »

rurounijones wrote: post #42

Cannot read the site on mobile because it keeps randomly scrolling to the bottom of the page and loading new articles. Lools like borked infinite scrollong

Similarly I keep getting shunted to another URL via pushstate. But the ads load fine.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by senorjazz »

subpixel wrote: post #43
rurounijones wrote: post #42

Cannot read the site on mobile because it keeps randomly scrolling to the bottom of the page and loading new articles. Lools like borked infinite scrollong

Similarly I keep getting shunted to another URL via pushstate. But the ads load fine.

Equally bad experience trying to read articles on vice. Scrolling is terrible, jarring, slow, find myself in the middle of a newly loaded article without realising.

Tend to give vice a miss now, which is a shame as quite enjoy some of there articles when I should be working

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by freshhawk »

archagon wrote: post #41
freshhawk wrote: post #21

I would love to have this restarted but as a cooperative and with only the people who refused or left Latitude because of the power/information asymmetry. Or those types of people. They saw the problem and acted even when being a member must have been a lot of fun and it must have been painful to be left out. The mystery and social connections from something like this are great, the number of people obviously using i…

I wish there were more (co-ed) fraternal organizations without the cult aspects. You know — a nice house, a pretty flag, a space to hang out and talk about interesting things. There's a certain social niche that just doesn't get filled by jobs or single-purpose meetups. Reading about this startup feels me with a deep sort of longing, despite knowing that it's a corporate construct.

Wow do I ever know the feeling. The "of like minds and hearts" line from the Latitude story really got me.

It's been my daydream plan to fund/start/organize one for more than 10 years now.

I too want a tribe.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

#46

Post by freshhawk »

volkl47 wrote: post #32
freshhawk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though I've read this article before, the first thing I thought of this time was the Fyre Festival tweet that ended with "the real lesson we should take away is how easy it is to lure a bunch of rich people onto an island with no hope of escape" edit: From Snctm website: "...all Gentlemen are required to wear a Tuxedo with Bowtie. Ladies shall be elegantly dressed in Evening Wear or Lingerie ... At Pool Party, G…

I mean, it appears to be a private sex/fetish club. That's not exactly surprising IMO.

I was referring to the ... asymmetry in those rules. It is clear that when they screen for "esthetic appeal" and "professional status", those have different weights for different genders. That's the creepy kind of private sex/fetish club, not the cool kind.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by mercer »

> I heard from a Nonchalance employee that Jeff had said he thought we were "entitled," that he was angry because he'd given us a $2 million gift we didn't appreciate properly.

This is the heart of the matter, I think. While it's speculation, it appears what went wrong is that Hull failed to delineate the 'business' from the rest of it.

The way he feels would strike me as odd (at best) if I hadn't experienced something similar myself. More than once.

On at least two occasions (the rest are vaguer) I started some business venture where the impetus was largely philanthropic/idealistic. Both times the end result was messy for everyone involved and largely unproductive. While the specifics were different, I think the main reason why things went South was that I mixed business with pleasure. I shat where I ate.

I'm not saying it's impossible or inadvisable to turn your dream into a business, or do business that you enjoy too, or start a business with your romantic partner for that matter. Rather, I think it's crucial to clearly delineate, and write down on paper, and discuss with everyone involved, which parts of the endeavor are business and which are not. And perhaps more importantly to discuss whether it's possible to separate these things in the first place.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by mercer »

freshhawk wrote: post #45
archagon wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there were more (co-ed) fraternal organizations without the cult aspects. You know — a nice house, a pretty flag, a space to hang out and talk about interesting things. There's a certain social niche that just doesn't get filled by jobs or single-purpose meetups. Reading about this startup feels me with a deep sort of longing, despite knowing that it's a corporate construct.

Wow do I ever know the feeling. The "of like minds and hearts" line from the Latitude story really got me. It's been my daydream plan to fund/start/organize one for more than 10 years now. I too want a tribe.

If you have any concrete ideas and reside in Europe, ideally the Northern area, send me an email!

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by mdekkers »

archagon wrote: post #41
freshhawk wrote: post #21

I would love to have this restarted but as a cooperative and with only the people who refused or left Latitude because of the power/information asymmetry. Or those types of people. They saw the problem and acted even when being a member must have been a lot of fun and it must have been painful to be left out. The mystery and social connections from something like this are great, the number of people obviously using i…

I wish there were more (co-ed) fraternal organizations without the cult aspects. You know — a nice house, a pretty flag, a space to hang out and talk about interesting things. There's a certain social niche that just doesn't get filled by jobs or single-purpose meetups. Reading about this startup feels me with a deep sort of longing, despite knowing that it's a corporate construct.

You know — a nice house, a pretty flag, a space to hang out and talk about interesting things

old hat in the UK - this is one of the nicer examples: https://homehouse.co.uk/ most of the others are shitty though.

Re: The rise and fall of Latitude, an exclusive underground society (2016)

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Post by sbierwagen »

freshhawk wrote: post #46
volkl47 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it appears to be a private sex/fetish club. That's not exactly surprising IMO.

I was referring to the ... asymmetry in those rules. It is clear that when they screen for "esthetic appeal" and "professional status", those have different weights for different genders. That's the creepy kind of private sex/fetish club, not the cool kind.

Duh? If the "professional status" metric was applied equally to both genders, then the club would be 90% men, which is the gender ratio you want for a different kind of sex club.
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