Earlier quoted context omitted.
WSL doesn't run a Linux kernel – a Windows Subsystem just provides a different API to the underlying Windows kernel, in this case the API Linux applications expect. So arguably, it's even further from a VM than CoLinux.
Do you know if they already have proper X support? Or is it just a matter of compiling X.org and running it yourself?
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#32Is-it docker compatible?
Dockerd relies on kernel features like cgroups and namespaces so I doubt the docker daemon can run inside WSL. There is a docker daemon for windows that I believes uses hyperv as container runtime. You could probably run docker cli inside wsl if you could expose the socket on the host to it (guessing)
There's Docker for windows which allows for linux docker containers to be run on windows, using Hyper-V.
Then there's Windows Container Services which allows for Windows Docker containers. Those can either be run on the host kernel or they can be isolated in a Hyper-V layer.
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#33Is-it docker compatible?
Dockerd relies on kernel features like cgroups and namespaces so I doubt the docker daemon can run inside WSL. There is a docker daemon for windows that I believes uses hyperv as container runtime. You could probably run docker cli inside wsl if you could expose the socket on the host to it (guessing)
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#34The installation process for the WSL still blows - and I say that as somebody who really likes this feature. I tried doing it today on my laptop: 1.) Open up the Programs and Features control panel. 2.) Go to Turn Windows Features on or off 3.) Select the Windows Subsystem for Linux option and hit OK. Installs, prompts for reboot. 4.) Try to launch C:\Windows\System32\bash.exe. Console window flashes momentarily and…
Also, the default console shell has gotten a ton of improvements.
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#35While I can see this is an excellent strategy for the Windows platform, and will probably make developers on Windows more productive, I for one will never give up natively installed linux distributions for development. It may be childish, but I resent Windows for every anti-privacy, anti-competitive move they make, despite how much it is within their rights and fitting with their corporate goals. Trying to put linux…
"I mean, the privacy is shit, but you can sort of deal with it. But at least you don't have to dance the Ritual Dance of PulseAudio if you need to do MIDI (or get as much as a hiss out of your speakers), suspending your computer doesn't garble your desktop background or desktop icon labels, you can update Windows Go 16 and it'll work after you reboot..."
I don't like Microsoft any more than I like any company of its size, but they're making a compelling case, while the Linux "community" is busy supporting cloud, IVI, and IoT vaporware.
Edit: ten years ago I was certain they were going to pry Debian and OpenBSD from my cold, dead hands. But Windows, for all its privacy compromises, is working better and better, whereas Linux desktops are getting worse (and less portable), with a never-fulfilling promise that it's going to get a lot better when they finally get stable, this massive rewrite that we started like six years ago is just about done...
Edit edit: I know my comment looks overly negative and I seem grumpy but really, I'm not, I like Linux, I make a living out of writing Linux software and I've used it one way or another for almost twenty years. That being said:
1. Please stop recommending me that I use something more user friendly, like Mint or Ubuntu. "You can update to Windows Go 16 and it'll work after you reboot" was a joke about Ubuntu.
2. This "I got this new machine and it works flawlessly out of the box, Linux is great if you get good hardware" is the wrong mentality if you're not Apple. Every operating system, including TempleOS, runs flawlessly out of the box on some hardware. It's getting it to run flawlessly on hardware other than the developers' machines that's complicated. Go ahead, grab ten high-end laptops at random and see how well plugging and unplugging your monitor works, even on systems that are officially supported. How do you think I ended up knowing xrandr's command line options better than I know tar's?
Not being able to care for my Linux box is not my problem, my problem is that I don't want to care for my Linux box. I babysit Linux at least eight hours a day at work. I don't want to have to do it at home, too.
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#36Guess the only reason to have VMWare on my windows machine is going away soon. Hope there are some reduction in computational overhead.
This is something that bothers me on my current setup (Xubuntu on Virtualbox): LATENCY while using X. On the tty everything feels snappy but as soon as I use a graphic terminal, it feels choppy and typing feels sluggish. I'm not even using Unity because then it'd be just unusable..
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Do you know if they already have proper X support? Or is it just a matter of compiling X.org and running it yourself?
I haven't followed this, but last I've seen a while ago was that you could run an X-server for Windows and then have Linux applications talk to that (and the normal environment didn't have dbus and things like that)
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#40While I can see this is an excellent strategy for the Windows platform, and will probably make developers on Windows more productive, I for one will never give up natively installed linux distributions for development. It may be childish, but I resent Windows for every anti-privacy, anti-competitive move they make, despite how much it is within their rights and fitting with their corporate goals. Trying to put linux…
On the other hand, we could be entering a phase where an open source developer might say "Why bother porting to Windows? Just target Arch/Ubuntu/SUSE."
I don't think that will be an issue with GUI programs on computers, but it might for CLI programs.